Re: Oil industry suppressed plans for 200-mpg car

Sure great, 200MPG........ But did it have bling?

Please post the patent number for the Pogue carburetor, so we can verify the veracity of you claim. We will need to wait to hear from you before we can comment on your post.

mike hunt

Uh... google search turns up patent and more:

copy/paste both lines

including a Snopes rebuttal:

But you dont have to read much to see the fallacy involved.

The gasoline internal combustion engine actually runs on gas vapor, not liquid gasoline. Any claim that the carb directly vaporizes it, thus is much more efficient, is easily put to the lie, thereby.

Of course, the poster above refutes this by the claim that tetraethyl lead somehow nullifies the magical conversion of gas vapor to methane and thus explains inability to produce.

Now, since you can read the patent, is the methane conversion mentioned?

I aint gonna bother... becuse I dont think you can get more methane per volume out of gas than you can get out of methane, per se.

The patents and a brief description:

Note that I didnt find methane, methanol or anything of the like.

AND you have to remember that it is NOT the job or the duty of the patent office to actually VERIFY validity of performance claims.

All that matters to USPTO is that an invention MIGHT work as described, for the purpose described... efficiency tests, not among the criteria.

And of course, decision on original and prior art.

USPTO patent files are full of crackpot gadgets.

I hold a patent (# 5,481,742)... big deal, except mine worked as described!

And i'll bet that "micro-filter" oil filter, referred to, is the famous 'toilet paper' filter.

more references: These addressing the claim of catalytic carburetion:

read toward bottom

There is no mention in the patent literature as belonging to an oil company nor any indication the is it licensed to an oil company. Where can we find a reference to the vehicle, in which it is installed, that it can attain any particular mpg, let alone 200 mpg in normal driving conditions.

mike hunt

I have never seen an engine, of a given HP/torque, that run on natural gas that operated as efficiently as a like engine that runs on gasoline. I have never seen a carbureted engine do as well as a MEFI engine, in producing high mileage, have you? What has always put the lie to so called super efficient carburetor is the fact if one did exist some vehicle manufacture would pay whatever price was necessary to buy the patent to control the vehicle market, before allowing an oil company to acquire the patent..

mike hunt