If you ever come to the US we all have black side mirrors - guess it's Ford
cheaping out over here. Plus they stick out too far so you scrape them going to
drive-up windows... Linda
(PS...I liked the idea of folding mirrors.)
It tends to be a status thing over here with cars in general. Most cars
have visible features which reveal (to those that are interested) if its
bottom of the range, top of the range or somewhere in between. Base
models have traditionally had black mirrors. The next model up may get
colour coded mirrors. The next one up may get alloy wheels etc, etc.
I think this snobbery is worse with company car drivers as the model of
the car he drives reflects his position in the company.
British Jet Engine Website http://www.britjet.co.uk
I have a 2001 Ford focus. Nothing but problem after problem. replaced
brakes at 25,000 miles. also had three addition major repairs done and
it only has 52000 mi. on it. If you want pain, just stick your hand
in a door and slam it a couple of hundred times; that would be easier.
buy a toyota, nissan, or honda. I'll never buy FORD again.
None of which has anything to do with his post. First, He's in Europe. The
Focuses are different there. Second he's looking for one a year or two old.
That means 2002 or 2003. Even in North America these are much better cars
than 2000 and 2001 (although I'm very happy with my 2000 wagon). So there's
no reason why he shouldn't do that if he wants.
Ford motor company can no longer produce quality automobile.
Whether he is in Europe shouldnt matter. does that mean that Ford
makes cars better in Europe than in the US? if so, then maybe Ford
should reimport cars from Europe to the US...
Buyer beware.. go to
and search consumer complaints. ( I found 355 records on Ford Focus
Go to http://www.nhtsa.gov/ for more information.
Go to http://www.edumnds.com/ for product reviews, and to see the
value of used and new cars, as well as depreciation.
The Ford Focus in the UK at least has always had good colours, noone i spoke
too had anything bad to say about the car. In fact alot of car places and
magazines rate the car quite highly.
Like any brand if something you buy turns out for the worse ur obviously not
going to go back to buying the brand, thats understnadable. You where just
unlucky ang got unfit car.
I wholeheartedly agree. Add to that this site:
Seems, aside from catching on fire and becoming one of the highest recall
models out there, the defective fuel module was designed in Europe so the
model there should have the same problems as well. Remember, the Europeans
do not put as many miles on their vehicles as do U.S. drivers so the
abnormalities of poor design do not surface there as often.
Tidbit of facts: The average U.S. car is driven 10,000 miles per year.
Average miles driven by European drivers is 22% less than that of U.S.
drivers. Europeans own 30% fewer cars/person (my neighbor owns 7 vehicles
for two people; other owns 4 for 2 people. U.S. population loves their cars
I guess). European cars get 41% better miles per gallon (smaller vehicles
than gas-guzzling, large-engine U.S. market), and subsequently, consume 61%
fewer gallons. Unfortunately, their tax base is, in some areas (Italy),
often 300% higher per gallon therefore their price per gallon is higher,
although price per gallon of "actual gas" is lower than U.S. Supply/demand
Anyway, I made my Ford mechanic a very rich man though with their bloody V6
engined contraption. Cars run. Contraptions maybe. :o(
Wrong. Ford models generally, and the Focus in particular, have excellent
quality ratings from all rating services the past two years. Look it up.
Spend your money where you want, but don't try to mislead others.
I have a 99 Sable with 130,000 Kms on it. NEVER had a problem. I've owned
all big three and most of the imports.(I'm an old guy :-) and the ford or
Mercury have been best. The worst was a 1978 Mazda GLC. What a piece of
crap. Got 35 MPG normal low speed highway driving. Not bad. It was 1.4
litre. One fast trip to Windsor 300 miles when I was in a hurry it averages
OBTW the high price of gas in Europe is due to high gas taxes.
I'm convinced it's all about attitude. I've never owned a crappy car. I've
owned many that have presented "mechanical/electrical challenges" (my old
Vauxhall comes to mind, oh, then there was the Toyota) but, treat them nice
and they'll get you around. Treat them poorly and most of the time they'll
still get you around. Some people whine while living on a tropical paradise
because there is an occasional storm.
Pleased with my 03 ZTW.
Test driving the 1.8 and 1.6 Zetec's next Saturday. Sticking to
manual/petrol with as much I can get for my money when it comes to optional
Bit disappointed with their range of colours though, just 12 by the looks of
1. Deep Navy
2. Colorado Red
3. Diamond White
4. Vitro (metallic)
5. Deep Rosso Red (metallic)
6. Machine Silver (metallic)
7. Honour Green (metallic)
8. Panther Black (metallic)
9. Tonic (metallic)
10. Ink Blue (metallic)
11. Magnum Grey (metallic)
12. Moondust Silver (metallic)
Panther Black or Deep Rosso seem to be the only colours me and the
significant other agree on.
<edited> more coloursadded: Metropolis Black (metallic), Neptune Green
(metallic), Pepper Red (metallic) & Light Sapphire Black (metallic) [on
The Ford dealer has giving me the list of all the Zetecs they have with
prices and at the moment looks like am gona burts my 8000grand budget coz
the car I want is 9,500 - 2003 model.
I just have a question for those experienced of having owned a Focus.
From the following, what do u think I should definetely get as well.
10A - 10 Spoke Allow Wheels
CLC - Climate Control - Not sure on this one, better to have on its own or
with Air Con or not at all?
HFS - Heated Front Screen - Will Have!
PDS - Parking Distance Sensor - Will Have/Maybe
SAB - Side Airbags
WTY - Manufacturers Warranty - Will Have!
ABS - Anti-lock Brakes
CLO - Central Locking - Will Have!
HST - Heated Seats
PSR - Power Sunroof
SAT - Satellite Nav
XEN - Xeon Headlamps
AIC - Air Conditioning - Will Have!
CMP - Comfort Pack - ???
LEA - Leather Trim
RCL - Remote Control Locking - Will Have
SLS - Levelling Suspension - ???
ALM - Alarm - Will Have
DIR - Ford Direct Warranty - Maybe!
MMP - Multi Media Pack - ???
EHM - Electric Heated Mirrors
PAB - Passenger Airbag - Will Have
CDP - CD Player - Will Have If I cannot put in my own headunit.
ELW - Electric Windows - Will Have
PAS - Power Assisted Steering - Will Have!
RSP - Rear Spoiler - Maybe!
TRC - Traction Control - (Am not buying a car to rally in)
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