I've been saying here for a long time that one of the things GM and the
other US car companies need to do is to put their money with their
mouths are regarding quality and reliability. If a vehicle is properly
designed, properly built, and then maintained by the book then nothing
should go wrong with any major component during the first five or more
years of use.
Now Ford is taking a big step in that direction. I wonder if GM will
" Ford Extending Warranties
Ford Motor Co. is trying to outflank some key competitors such as
General Motors and DaimlerChrysler by announcing plans for what it
described as the best warranty and roadside assistance packages now
available from any full-line manufacturer. The no-deductible, fully
transferable powertrain limited warranty on 2007 Ford and Mercury
vehicles is now five years or 60,000 miles"
Hey John, we have a 2005 Chrysler minivan that has the a
seven-year/70,000-mile powertrain warranty (think they went back to 3/36 in
'06?). But, it sure sounds good to consumers & I'd love to see 'our' big 3
offer, with confidence, longer than 3/36 like your Ford article indicates.
The 7/70 on wife's '05 Chrys sure helped decide. s
It would definitely make a difference in my future car shopping. I don't
intend to buy
another GM until they straighten up their act.
I dont really care too much for Fords, but that 500 (?) looks pretty
interesting...that is the
one, IIUC, that is sort of a Volvo crossbreed.
The 500 is a full size vehicle. It, the Freestyle SUV and the Mercury
Montigo are not built on a separate frame. They are built on a Ford
designed unibody chassis, first used by Volvo.
Actually the S80 unibody design is reported to be the basis of those
vehicles, but was designed by Volvo before the Ford takeover. The S80
was simply a further development of the 850 design introduced in 1992 by
On Fri, 14 Jul 2006 02:14:34 -0400, sdlomi2 wrote:
Wait till you discover all the parts that are NOT covered by that
Things like bearings, tie rods etc....
IOW a lot of the stuff the powertrain goes THROUGH to deliver the power
are NOT covered....
I have a 2000 Caravan with the best warranty they offered at the time and
I have still had to pay for stuff.
IE: the halfshaft is covered, but the wheel bearing that caused it to fail
is not covered and neither is the labor to replace the wheel bearing.
Despite the fact it all has to come apart anyway to replace parts.
Total scam IMHO.
After, on a 2000 Caravan bought brand new and lightly driven:
3 Power steering rack and pinions.
2 Half shafts.
2 PCM's (computer)
3 transmission sensors
Sway bar bushings 3 times
1 fuel pump
2 tie rod ends (not covered).
1 clock spring (Recall)
1 BCM (semi covered)
I will NEVER, I REPEAT NEVER, buy another Chrysler product.
They make shit!!!!!!!!!!
Congratulations on having joined the Never Again Club (NAC). The US
based makers (and VW!) have put millions of their former customers into
the NAC and will never see them back again, not to mention the influence
these people have on their friends and family.
On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 02:10:48 +0000, John Horner wrote:
Actually I like US cars, I have a mint 92 Caprice with 370,000 original
miles on original engine and tranny.
BTW I live in NY and am in NYC all the time.
Try that with a rice burner.
My daughter has a 2003 Jetta and it just runs.
She has about 60k on it and aside from a recall for the heated seats, it
has never seen the dealer.
My next car is a Ford Mustang and in fact I am looking now for a leftover
I wouldn't take a jap car if someone gave one to me.
Total lack of ACCURATE documentation (ie:service manuals)
An anal retentive attitude at the dealerships which makes the customer
feel like crap.
Parts that cost 3x the going rate.
I keep my cars a VERY LONG time and the rice burners start to crumble at
the magic 100k mark...
A friend of mine needed work done on his 2000 Lexus....
$3000 later they finally discovered the A/C clutch had an open coil....
Interestingly enough I had the same problem on my Caprice.
$49.99 and mine was fixed.....
Another friend of mine needed an ignition module for a Camry.
$350 later he got one.
$25.00 and you can get it at any local auto parts store.
I travel a LOT on business and rent cars in places all over the country. I
have driven all kinds of cars and for my money the rice burners are total
You want to buy a real nice car?
Buy a Volvo Cross Country wagon.
Ugly yes...but it is built like a tank.
Wanna buy a shit car?
Suburu Outback, Saturn Vue, Ford Escape, Toyota Camry interestingly enough
the Toyota Corolla was a pleasant car.
Anything Honda is pure garbage.
They are talking of pulling out of USA if sales aren;t up to expectations
Ahhh, I'm getting flashbacks (and it ain't a bad acid trip). Reminds
me of the mid-60s when the "Big 4" got into a warranty war. Dealers
made a ton of money on work but the mfrs. got clobbered.
With the quality of the Detroit products being a bit higher than 40
years ago it should not cost Ford that much to do this.
As far as I'm concerned, a better warranty might "break a tie", but I
would not buy a car just based on its warranty.
I would rather have the option of buying a vehicle without any warranty, if
it would lower the selling price. I have not had any car, foreign or
domestic, in years that ever had a warranty claim. When I bought my first
new vehicle the warranty was only for thirty days or 1,000 miles,WOF. Same
with recalls. I never had a vehicle that exhibited the problem for which
mine was recalled. Simply a waste of time for me. When I get a recall that
says" You vehicle may have-.....ETC, I toss it in the trash ;)
My 2007 Buick Lucerne has a 4 year/50K mile "bumper to bumper" warranty.
A step up from the old 3yr/36K mile warranty.
We'll see if it is a step up. Bumper to bumper might exclude everything in
I wish you well with it. We considered the Lucerne, but decided it was too
new and too
undeveloped. AND GM is such a shitteaux company that when they make a bad
they try to bury you with it.
Big deal, Ford trannies don't last 100k, so IMO they're about 40k
miles too short ;)
And besides this is a powertrain warranty, not bumper-to-bumper, BFD.
Ford can kiss the whitest part of my ass. I'll never own another one.
I love my Chevy :-D
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