GM deal moves electric car development to China -- a 'shakedown'?

GM deal moves electric car development to China -- a 'shakedown'?

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Jim_Higgins
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"The Chinese government is pushing electrics with a subsidy that amounts to= about $19,000 per car -- but only if the car is made in China. No imports = allowed."

"The push for more advanced technology reflects China's frustrations with i= ts continued weakness in automotive technology, analysts say. After 25 year= s of auto joint ventures that require local partners to hold at least a 50%= stake, domestic automakers still lag behind global rivals in automotive en= gineering.

"China is not a technology leader in virtually any industry. The country ha= s developed around low-cost production,"

"GM spokesman Jay Cooney said the companies will work together to develop a= next-generation, fully electric car."

It is difficult to see what GM wants with this venture other than getting i= nto selling more in China.

GM could if it really wanted already make electrics in the US.

Problem is they are still producing old style cars heavy/complex/expensive = and calling them electrics even if they are not.

The Volt is a major flop but they could use the experience at home with the= Volt to make a real electric light weight/simple/low cost and get a good c= ar for the future.

Why they want to do it in china instead is strange to say the least.

Reply to
gosinn

This is so funny, Obama bails them out to go to China....

Hey taxpayers, still believe in government corruption bailouts?

UAW/CAW, how do you feel to be chumps in your part of selling out fellow taxpayers?

With GM down 1/3rd from IPO, just proves you can't bailout the loser mentality of a company, the tried and true chapter 7 process is for that.

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Canuck57

I was looking at a russian tv station and they had one hour report about GM and it was surely a sad story.

Much of the report was about Detroit and UAW.

Reply to
gosinn

and it was surely a sad story.

Yep, Detroit, the city unions destroyed.

Reply to
Canuck57

Very interesting to see that Toyota is finally beginning to sell plug in prius.

I have never been interested in a hybrid without a plug in capability.

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As a step to a full electrical car this is interesting.

The Prius plug-in total all-electric range is 14.3 mi (23 km) has a expected total range of 475 miles (764 km)

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gosinn

Audi is probably here with a winner.

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Sitting in the Audi urban concept is like sitting in the cockpit of an aero= plane. The seating position is very sporty. The driver can precisely adjust= the positions of the aluminium pedals and the steering column. The pedals = can be moved a total of 22 centimetres (8.66 in), while the steering column= can be moved 14 centimetres (5.51 in) for easier entry and an additional s= ix centimetres (2.36 in) for a custom driving position.

The charging process begins automatically when the urban concept is driven = onto the plate. The alternating magnetic field of the infrastructure side i= nduces an alternating current across the air gap in the secondary coil, whi= ch is integrated into the vehicle. This current is rectified and fed into t= he vehicle's electrical system, where it charges the battery or powers syst= ems such as the heater. The alternating field is only generated if the vehi= cle is parked over the plate and so poses no danger to people or animals.

Reply to
gosinn

Here are cars made in USA

GEM

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gosinn

It is interesting to follow the growth in GEM and it will continue at a similar rate as the decline in GM.

The GEM is a true electric and the GM electric is not an electric at all but a flopping hybrid.

The GEM shows what the Volt could have been.

There is still a lot of improvements possible for the GEM and especially in the battery handling.

It will surely not come from GM.

I bet the chinese were aiming for GEM but went for GM by mistake.

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gosinn

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