GM worse off than I thought....

Feb 27, 2009 30 Replies

Socialism in Europe is what allows people to earn a living wage, to buy cars, etc. It allows citizens or residents, in most cases, access to medical care, retirement, vacations.

It allows factories to produce high quality products, rather than have to cut corners, produce cheap junk, sell at cutthroat prices, compete for the low end market.

It attempts to balance the needs of the people, of society, against the demands and needs of industry and commerce.

Like capitalism, too much of it can be a bad thing. ;>)

Poor Europe, they don't have medical bankruptcies there-we do. Those poor deprived Socialists.

Ed, WTF? Are you feeling OK? You've misunderstood everything I've posted for two days now.

I think Ed's off his meds this week...

THe SAME Taliban that YOU indirectly support by dissing those who are fighting against them.

Like George W. Bush, who largely abandoned the fight against the Taliban?

"Mike Hunter" wrote in news:49a83470$0$12272$ snipped-for-privacy@news-radius.ptd.net:

Mike you are full of it. The reason they are trying to sell it is because they don't have the money to keep it, pure and simple. I read where the German government wants to keep Opal as a German operation. It will be interesting to see if they take it over.

"Mike Hunter" wrote in

The cost of making cars does not matter if the selling price can cover the expenses. I'm sure other manufacturers face the same costs as far as the socialist government.

Mike Hunter doesnt know s*it about anything and never has.

To buy a car, it has to have a certain appeal, prestige. GM fell down on the job here. Whether rightfully or not, the American car is no longer regarded as a standard of industry...an engineering masterpiece...a reliable piece of equipment.

In Norway, a new car would cost you upwards of $40,000, and much higher. It has to be good or nobody will buy it. BECAUSE the system is democratic socialism, the people are educated, have jobs, and can afford to pay the higher prices for BMW, Mercedes, VW, etc. (This system works there, but would never work here. We can discuss at length, if we need to do so.)

Now we have a nation of scared people. Minimum wagers, no job security, no healthcare, etc. And if you are in that circumstance, you dont buy a car. You drive a 15 year old POS or ride the bus. \

Let's not even cast blame. The boat is taking on water, and it doesnt make a damn if we hit an iceberg or if the nails rusted out.

My thought was that Toyota could buy half of Opel, get a large share of decent performing European company and a larger share of the European market.

Ed

Screw that. Europe already has a lot of decent cars we don't get.

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