Yes, years ago the unions helped make American a great place for the worker.
They were needed. They brought about much needed reform.
Then things changed. Unions started to worry more about themselves than the
workers they represented. I've seen this firsthand in negotiations and in
meetings before the negotiations. I've seen the dealings and then the big
show for the workers. The workers did not know the contract was "settled"
at lunch weeks before and they were just used as sources of income from
I've seen dues collected every month for years and not one penny paid out.
I'd not give them a penny.
Really? Do you think all of the union lawyers work pro bono or the union
hall appeared out of thin air or it operates by magic? You give the
government a lot more than the few hours pay that you pay in union dues, do
you ever "see" a penny of that coming your way? LOL
Yeah, this guy was no lawyer. He was the union negotiator and packed a
pistol. He told us how much money they needed for the union and that is the
only thing he had to take back. These guys never saw the union hall or a
penny of benefits. The shop steward got a few bucks a month for his
position but he made more on the side cleaning the office on the side..
Oh, I forgot to mention. ---- We paid the workers more that called for in
the contract. Why? because the both deserved it and we had to be
competitive with neighboring companies that wanted the same workers.
At least for every dollar I give the government in taxes I get maybe a
nickel in benefits. That is more than these guys got from the union.
With the new two tier pay setup to pay new folks about 1/2 of regulars
(that should create a real morale problem) with the 2nd tier people pay
1/2 of regular dues-or are they stuck with full dues for 1/2 pay?
If indeed they earn only your assumed "half as much," they will pay half as
much in dues for the exact same coverage as those that pay more, for their
representation that provides the union with it's only power and that is to
require management to abide by the contract.
Get real? The guys paid union dues. They got NOTHING in return. Where is
the justice in that or the justification for it? They were just sources or
revenue for the union leaders. No one ever collected a penny in benefits of
any time from the time I started in 1970 to the time the company was sold
and closed in 1981. Why should they work a few hours for some union
official that does nothing for them? Screw that.
Go ahead, send in your dues. I'm not. Never did, never will. I've managed
to find my way in life independently.
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