i wish honda would pay attention to this:

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it IS hard to believe that Honda is in Formula One racing,but now doesn't make any Hondas that would be suitable for budget racing.

the Prelude was the last car Honda made that I would buy.

Honda has not been in or had engines in F1 for years.

i know, it's painful. back in ~2001/2002, i read an article in the financial press of all places, pointing out that with the new macpherson civic's/integra's poorer handling, honda had just "handed the enthusiast market to subaru on a plate". subies don't handle that well on road either, but they have power. honda didn't have power, but more than made up for it in road handling, just as they say in the link.

they're nice, but i can't fit in one. i can't fit in the s2000 either - not made for tall people. that's another personal reason why i think the civics were so awesome.

@speakeasy.net:

There are no Honda engines in F1, but the IRL uses ONLY Honda engines.

And what's wrong with the s2000? Those are great cars.

Thus spake Ron :

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Only until the end of next season. Both Chevy and Lotus have announced engines.

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I wonder if it's because of the arrival of an F1 track here in Austin?

JT

Thus spake Grumpy AuContraire :

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I wish. More likely it's because Chevy is finally (let's avoid the political bookkeeping issues) become profitable. And Lotus? No telling.

I picked up this weeks AusChron at Chuy's today. Haven't read the headline article yet.

Dillon Pyron wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

That "political bookeeping makes /all/ the difference.

If you don't count that the government poured $50-billion into GM, only $26.9 billion of which they've got back in the IPO and from GM itself, and if you don't count that they've been granted the unprecedented permission to carry over $45-billion of tax losses from the old GM, then yes, GM is almost getting profitable.

But if you /do/ count all those special favors (that no other bankrupt gets!), GM is still a money-losing pit of bad management.

It's notable that the new GM's prospectus gives the warning that since the selling stockholder is a federal agency, buyers won't be able to sue for omissions and misstatements in the prospectus. Just let a private company try that and see how far they get!

You're a real astute observer. I can't begin to note all of the bad deals the guv'ment has made and it ain't over yet.

If I did that, I'd be rattlin' the cage!

JT

(What ever happened to simplification?)

Same goes for the pat-downs of TSA agents at airports. :-(