#1, install reliable automatic transmission in their vehicles and extend
the automatic transmission warranty to at least 100,000 miles for all
years, all models.
#2, Make good looking vehicles. The Ridgeline is plug ugly. Most
other current Honda models are in the barely acceptable category.
Honda seems to have no workable design language for it's current US
lineup and is loosing sales as a result.
Honda was up 4% in the US last year. Toyota was up 10%. Nissan was up
9%. Hyundai was up 9% on the year and 16% in December. Honda's December
sales were down 3%. Toyota December sales were up 9%. Trend wise,
Honda is falling off the pace while Toyota and Hyundai are pulling
strong. I see Toyota and Hyundai as the real competition for Honda in
the US market today. Hyundai has pulled itself up by the bootstraps
into the first tier of auto manufacturers in historically record time.
All data is from:
Honda management seems to be loosing it's way in recent years on certain
quality control issues and on styling. An insular culture and
corporate arrogance are what brought GM down in the long haul. Honda
had better watch out for the same problem.
I like almost all of the Honda's looks. Yeah, Ridgeline's kind of ugly.
Reminds me of GM's half pickups. Do you include Acuras in the list?
Acuras look pretty nice too. The new Civic looks great.
On the other hand, I dislike almost all of Toyota's car looks: Corolla,
Camry, Solara, Prius.
Why they stopped using amber rear turn signals is beyond me....
I was behind a new Accord that had its turn signal flashing -- but I had to
look two or three times to be sure that's what was happening. Of course, for
those who don't USE turn signals, well.... never mind. ;-)
No, they're red, and far less visible than they ever were before. *I* need
to see what drivers' intentions are. "Foreign" manufacturers were the leader
in this important safety issue; apparently some, like Honda, don't give a
rat's ass anymore. Besides, design-wise, the new taillights look awful. I
know, there's no accounting for taste.
On Thu, 5 Jan 2006 17:29:19 -0700, "Howard Lester"
Hardly a 'leader in an issue' - Amber turn signals are required on all
vehicles in europe, and despite what many think, the european car
market is bigger than the American one - UK, france, germany spain USa, ireland = canada, then you have portugal, italy, etc.
When cops in the Uk are in a strict mood (say around a 'cruise'
they'll get you for fog-lghts, and if you've got red indicators 9or
white, when applied) you've evither got the choise of fixing it
without moving the vehicle, or towing it, since technically its
unroadworthy (UK drivers tend not to look for red turn signals0 and
often they'll tear up your MOt certificate, and force you to get
Its to do with joe schmoe, and what he thinks is nice.
just look at TV, and you'll see just how much taste the average
american is deemed to ahve.
The present Acura line is pretty decent looking. Hondas, however, are
all over the place. The new Civic is alright and the Accord is decent,
but the Ridgeline, Pilot and Element are all certainly nothing to write
Make a new CRX and a new Prelude,at reasonable prices,with reasonable
Also,Mazda makes their very popular Miata,and Honda's S2000 is far higher
Honda needs to look at what the "tuners" are doing with older Hondas and
other makes of autos;that's what the younger crowd wants to buy.
Instead,their products keep getting bigger and bigger,heavier,more and more
"same as everybody else".
Sign me up for that one! It really ticks me off that there are so few
good mid-sized wagon available on the US market. For overall
versatility, comfort, performance and economy nothing beats a mid-sized
Most people who buy station wagons do not want "performance",they want to
haul their kids around.
Honda used to make a station wagon Accord,and sales were not good enough to
keep making them.Same for Toyota.
I have had volvos for years, mainly european 340s and 360s.
The V70s are not quite as big as the old 240 estate certainly not the
current model, the older one (96-01 iirc) is bigger, but its basically
the 760 refined a bit more.
They're reliable if kept maintained (except for some of the XCs)
British and european polie ofrces use the V70 as their prefered
pursuit car, and those do heavy duty on constant swapped shifts - 130k
miles a year is average for them, often in high pursuit (delimited, a
t5 will do somewhere in the region of 160mph) only place something
else is prefered is for inner-city pursuits, where the imprezta (often
worked on by prodrive) rules, which are tweaked to make traffic humps
at 70 doable
Indeed, Honda is a complete non-starter in the sporty coupe market.
Even the new Saturn Sky blows away Honda in that category. Who would
have thought that Saturn could do a better job than Honda on something ????
The Civic SI is an impressive drive in my opinion -- as is the Acura RSX S.
And, I will take my 01 Prelude over anything Saturn. BTW local Pontiac
dealers are asking close to 30k for 177hp Ecotek Soltice, of which the the
Sky is a badge engineered copy
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