Oh puleeze! I'm not going to argue that restrictions should be placed on
horsepower or anything like that, but it's long past time that people
started being more realistic as to what's really necessary in a car.
There is not a single valid argument for having more than 180-200
horsepower in a passenger car. It's one thing if you need a truck to
haul or tow huge loads, but in passenger cars, it's simply frivolous and
wasteful. If you want a toy, you can get all the performance you want in
smaller, lighter cars that actually get decent gas mileage and don't
cost a fortune, just ask Lotus.
Hardly. There is no excuse for passenger vehicles that can't get at
least 25 mpg on the highway. There's also no excuse for wasting finite
resources by driving oversize vehicles with huge engines.
It's long past time that gas guzzler taxes were reintroduced. Perhaps
it's time for a horsepower tax, too. Put the money into development of
alternative fuel technologies and we'll all be better off.
The Brits are your example of doing things correctly ?
They couldn't win the second world war without our help. They have a medical
system where you die before you can get a heart bypass. They have the most
miserable teeth except possibly the French,
and most importantly ( Drum Roll please ) CO2 is not garbage. There would
not be any plant life without it.
There is not one single bit of scientific EVIDENCE that CO2 harms the
environment. If you have a problem with the generation of CO2 you might want
to consider the option of not breathing any more, you do generate lots of
CO2 when you exhale. Why are you polluting my nice clean breathable air?
You guys worrying about CO2 had better start worrying about bees. Einstein
once said the world could not exist over 4 days without bees, now
scientists are saying bees have disappeared on east coast by 70 percent
and over 60 percent on west coast...see how many MPG you get without them,
and yu're dead!!!
Well, that's a scientifically impossible statement unless fuel octane
were 100+ or cars were so light they took less energy to move. There
is no way to escape the amount of waste generated by heat from a
carbon based internal combustion engine without the assistance of 3rd
party regenerative technology (currently in development). It's dumb to
tax horsepower but it's also dumb to make cars with obscene amounts of
horsepower. Especially in this day and age. The people who drive gas
guzzlers have money to pay a lot for their inefficient vehicles so
they will never care. They don't see the problem. As long as the auto
makers can make huge money off of gas guzzlers and people buy them and
waste more fuel driving them, we're all screwed.
Realistically, taxing horsepower is not the best solution since that
would heavily impact the construction biz with their trucks and
- Thee Chicago Wolf
That is only your opinion. Many people drive performance cars for
recreation and enjoyment. Tell me all of the things you do for
enjoyment, and unless you are the dullest person on earth, I'll bet I
can make a good argument why you shouldn't do what you do.
I can argue that there is no excuse for using gasoline at all. We've
had bicycles for a long time and feet even longer than that. If we all
walked and rode bicycles everywhere, we wouldn't need to burn gasoline
at all. So why is your bar set at 25 MPG better than mine set a
You hope aren't the dullest person on earth? Or you hope that I can't
make a good argument why you shouldn't have sex? :-) There are
actually many good arguments for the latter, at least as many as there
are for not driving a vehicle that gets less than 25 MPG!
I used to feel the same way, then I grew up. ;-)
If people want to drive HP cars, fine, let them pay for the damage that
their recreation does.
Let's see, there's cycling, sea kayaking, X/C skiing for three. Please
tell me how irresponsible they are compared to driving gas-hog vehicles.
Ah yes, when one has no valid rebuttal to an argument, come up with some
complete absurdity to try and make the original argumnet look invalid.
Come on Matt, you can do better than that...or perhaps not.
How do you get to the ocean for sea kayaking and the mountains for X/C
skiing. If you ride your bike to both carrying your kayak or skies,
then you win. If you drive anything that burns petroleum, then you are
wasting valuable resources that I need to get to work.
Ah yes, when you have no rebuttal, claim that the argument you can't
rebut is absurd. Nice try, but no points. Please play again.
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