The edge of it. Hastings/Parish. I generalize about the area in posts like
this because it does represent the typical driving conditions we encounter
during the winter. I probably receive somewhat less snow than Redfield in
any given storm, but we are not that far off seasonally. I spend alot of
time on the road within the Tug Hill area though. The entire Hill averages
closer to 300" than 200" most years. The last few sure have not been that
heavy though. I know that we do get a lot more than Fulton gets in any
given snowfall. It's funny how it goes (as you probably know) - it's like
there is a wall where all of a sudden the snow starts and it's like you
entered another zone on the planet.
Yup used to do alot of snowmobileing in Happy Valley. Im originally from
Central Square, lived there for 23 years then moved down Rt 49 where 49
comes into Rt 3, now I have given up on all the poopy weather and now live
in Las Vegas, its nice not having to shovel all that white stuff but here we
have to deal with above 100* summer days Oh Well such is life in the big
I got grounded on some remote roads for hours going to a skiing trip in
WV last year with my factory supplied Michelin's on my 2003 Elantra.
It was a joke, cars going by me left and right while my son and I were
attempting to push my wife up the hills and bouncing and sitting on the
hood. There was only about 2 inches of snow. Tried everything out of
desperation, riding on the edge trying to get traction from the rocks,
in the grass, clearing a path with my feet, even tried the traction
control which did not help because of the rapid changes caused too much
erratic changes causing more problems. A few times the front end would
drift too far and slide off the road but we never actually left the road
completely. We finally gave up and sat around until and a resort
employee on his way to work pulled me with a tow strap the last 3 miles
to the resort with his Samuri (4x4 with all season tires oddly enough).
Being stuck out in the middle of absolutely nowhere is not a good
feeling. I still had at least 4/32 of tread left with about 35k miles
on those tires but ruined them tires from the constant spinning (chewed
up from at least an hour of trying). The previous year I made it around
with no problems where I live but I only have small rolling hills here.
I've had one of my 5.0 Mustangs in the snow a few times for one reason
or another. It was a joke and the AS tires are just a very small part
of that problem.
Obviously your luck was much better then mine but I'll keep the chains
in my trunk from now on.
You would not believe the mountains of snow that I have plowed with nothing
more than good ASR's on my truck. Of course, it's 4WD, but then again, it's
pushing a lot more load than any passenger car simply driving down the road.
I generally keep M&S tires on it but I have used simple ASR's in the past.
I'm surprised you chewed off any amount of tread in that experience. With
that little traction - thus little coeffiecient of friction, I would not
expect you to wear off tread.
For me the big thing is the tread design. I look for big sipes and
channeling outward. Some might call it an aggressive tread. I stay
completely away from touring tires and the more contemporary tread designs
typical of today's low profile tires.
Luck has little to do with it. While 1/8" of tread is still legal in
most states, it certainly isn't adequate in snow. And that has nothing
to do with the type of tire. No tire will give decent snow traction
with that little tread remaining.
I run my tires down to 2/32" generally, but only if that occurs during
the summer. I just replaced the tires on my minivan and they had a
little more than 2/32" left, but it was getting too close to winter to
risk running them longer.
I bought mine through a local tire dealer. He did have some trouble
locating them (over two years ago), but they're available. FWIW, I went
with Nokian Hakkapelitta 2 tires, size 185/65-15 and have been very
happy with them. You could also go with size 175/70-15 for a little
better bite through the deep stuff.
They really suck in the winter compared to real snows, even when they're
new. I think you'll be very happy with the performance of your snow tires.
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