anyone ever fabricated SS racks or weight baring structures here? I'm wondering how comparable X gauge of stainless tubing is verses the same gauge of carbon steel... and what grade of stainless might be up to the task. In other words how light of a gauge would you recommend for a rack (say a safari style roof rack) that has to support a few hundred pounds. under varying load and flex while driving. I be using it for a canoe, gas can, camping stuff; that sort of thing. Is there a rule of thumb like if 14 gauge steel tubing would do the trick, you'd need 12 gauge SS to get comparable strength? Also what thickness SS would you recommend for a swingout spare carrier with single mounting point roller bearing hub attached to a beefed up rear cross member (replaced the stock 1/8th thick cross member with 1/4").
question for the welders here
Nov 06, 2003
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Although sometimes increased strength might be a byproduct of the alloying procedure....usually the resistance to corrosion is what Stainless steels are alloyed for, some of the metals used in the process are not as strong as the original metal. The actual process used to form the metals originally and then the method used in the shaping of them also have a lot to do with the strength and ductility. One thing I look at is if someone already makes something similar to what you want...try to find out what they used for materials (Several manufacturers offer bumpers/bars and racks etc in SS). Also stainless steel does rust.....just slower than carbon steels. If you want something up there to be shiny.....chrome it.
Sean
there is no significant difference.
depends. do you want to eat off it or just use it to hold things?
i would build with 11ga., but i overbuild _everything_. while its more durable, its also needlessly heavy......but thats just how i build things.
14ga. would be fine, even 16ga. if youre only talking about a few hundred pounds.i would build with 1/4" 2x2. bear in mind there are a few things to know about stainless. i recommend you tig it, but if youre going to mig it first practice on scrap. also if you mig it be sure and use a tri-mix gas otherwise the welding will effect the corrosive resistance of the stainless in the HAZ causing rust.
Sean Prinz wrote: > Although sometimes increased strength might be a byproduct of the > alloying procedure....usually the resistance to corrosion is what > Stainless steels are alloyed for, some of the metals used in the > process are not as strong as the original metal. The actual process > used to form the metals originally and then the method used in the > shaping of them also have a lot to do with the strength and > ductility. One thing I look at is if someone
Yep I understand that much.
That's a good idea, didn't think of that.
I'm after stainless for corrosion ressistance, not flash. I never cared for chrome on anything. I've got SS on the brain lately it just has a quality I like; looks good brushed or soda blasted... very low maintainance. I sort of have a SS theme going with this Jeep and I'm going to see how far I can go with it.
Okay, I always got the impression SS was generally more brittle.
Hold things LOL
Well I've never weighed a canoe and that would be it's main purpose (that and letting me avoid putting a cargo rack on the back above the spare). I also tend to overbuild but I don't want to add weight where I could get away with less... Maybe 16 gauge for the rack and 14 or 12ga. for the "legs"
Good advice, I'm planing on it (already picked up some scrap to practice on)
I'm curious does this also apply to cutting and bending? I might fab the parts and take them to a friend (who welds for a living). Anyway thanks for the advice.
for your intended usage there is no difference. if you were referencing vehicle control arms or steering components it would be one thing but for what you reference there is no difference.
actually with the legs being only an inch or two long they could actually be paper thin and still be stronger than the rest. i wouldnt worry _that_ much about saving weight though, not over pieces only a few inches long. get some 14ga square tubing and be done with it.
the only way i cut stainless is with a plasma cutter, but it can be sawed, snipped, and sheared. if you need any information on equipment, see
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once you price the stainless i think youll want to make sure its done properly. :-)
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