Forest Wire Kits

The law say so.

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"Priced from £16.00 including VAT (where applicable) and delivery"

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On or around Sat, 30 Oct 2004 20:58:09 +0100, Mother enlightened us thusly:

vehicle "fitted with dangerous parts"

I presume however that it's legit to drive with picks and shovels adorning the front of the 101?

On or around Sat, 30 Oct 2004 21:01:26 +0100, Mother enlightened us thusly:

or one of those virtual keyboards, then you could never damage it by spilling stuff...

What about the 101 I see at all the shows with the workshop vice stuck on a

P.

Perfectly, under Construction and Use regs.

Military vehicles are a bit of a law unto themselves - and so long as there's not an operating chainsaw at ped level, you can generally get away with anything - sadly, IMO.

I'm kin warnin' you...

... I'm not to be messed with (said Charlotte...)

So Mother"

Twas Sat, 30 Oct 2004 19:06:19 +0000 (UTC) when "SimonJ" put finger to keyboard producing:

my old 110 passed an MOT with those wires on. Hardly proff of legality but I'd expect them to say something if they were illegal.

Regards. Mark.(AKA, Mr.Nice.)

I was in a bit of an odd situation earlier today (there's another post coming up on that subject later) and had a captive traffic policeman.

I asked the question and his response was that if they constituted unneccessary danger to the public in the event of a collision then he'd be likely to issue a prohibition notice for them, however removable ones were fine.

P.

Unfortunately (fortunately!) the MOT police only check what's on their list.

I guess "if" you were to have an "accident" and something horrid happened due to them being in place at the time - you would give a solicitor and his law firm a field day! All insurance null and void to start with...etc.

If you had told your insurance company that you had made the modification and they had agreed new terms and liabilities before any such incident should it still be an issue?

Mssrs, Sticham, Stuffem and Stingham.

But I still cant see how they are dangerous. For a pedestrian to come in contact with them, the pedestrian needs to be suspended about 3 feet in the air across the road, and in this case the wires will probably help him as they will guide him over the roof rather than letting him smash into the windscreen. And how the hell would anyone end up in that position anyway!

I'd be very surprised if anything from a yacht chandler turned out to be a cheap option!

More lights? I thought you had one of those bonnet light-pod thingies.

Pete

Simon Hi,

My experience with forest wires dates back to 1995 when I bought my first ex Camel Trophy evented Discovery 200Tdi (also have a second one since year

Forest wires ARE dangerous to pedestrians. I still have them on the second camel which I have kept totally genuine (as a future classic vehicle and collector's item) but I have removed them from the first one which is now highly modified.

Forest wires are extremely helpful on dense medium to high level vegetation (such as high bush or forest driving) BUT the human body is much more sensitive than trees and branches. If you hit a pedestrian's hand (and there are a lot of people who tend to try to pass the road and do not look left and/or right first or point their hands while they walk etc) or worse still if you hit a pedestrian and knock him/her on your bonnet it is definately sure that you will inflict serious wounds and possible mutilation to his/her body.

On the other hand the European Union directive which governs national road standards legislations clearly states that the items which may be considered dangerous for pedestrians or occupants of other vehicles HAVE to extrude (point out) from the outer dimensions of the vehicle. In this sense forest wires are WITHIN the vehicle's standard factory outer dimensions since they start from the bonnet and finish on the roofline or within the specified by law and allowed margin of 5 cm (if I remember well)

Take care Pantelis Giamarellos (who had won a court case against him for the standard factory fitted equipment on his Camel Trophy Discovery 200Tdi, fitted with forest wires)

Sure - but I reckon being hit by a Land Rover, however hard, is better than being decapitated, which is what these wires have the potential to do. It's like the bull bars argument, but worse. Who needs them for driving in town, apart from the looks?

Make 'em removeable, and only use them when needed, i.e. off-road.

Rich

Twas 1 Nov 2004 03:04:33 -0800 when snipped-for-privacy@yahoo.co.uk (Richard Brookman) put finger to keyboard producing:

I use lanes around 4 days a week upon which these wires would be useful, I am considering them again as I'm sick of things hitting the windscreen.

Regards. Mark.(AKA, Mr.Nice.)

On or around Mon, 01 Nov 2004 13:17:08 +0000, Mr.Nice. enlightened us thusly:

I was glad of the bull bar on mine today. logging lorry with tall load took off a medium-sized branch which fell down on the front of mine, had it not had the bullbar there'd now be an impressive dent in the bonnet.