Well I had been thinking about an LS430. But my Greenville dealer doesn't keep
them in stock so I have to drive to Charleston SC to test drive one. That is a
real bummer. Then there is the brake problem on my wife's ES300 - they vibrate
so bad it is pathetic and I called and they said I will have to pay for it or
they can grind off the rough spots on the rotors. So obviously I might as well
stay with Mercedes, but they are too bad and unreliable now. And the dealer
here is just unbelievable! Estimated $8500 for what ended up costing less than
$1000 at other places. So not sure what type to buy. Am thinking maybe of the
new little Bently sports car type, but am not sure how to find a SC dealer. All
the Jap and German and American dealers are just too bad to consider their
hmmm ... got no money - spent it all at the Mercedes garage ... and am saving
up for the new brakes at 20,000 on the wife's ES300 ... know any banks that
make loans on worthless cars ? That ole english sports car from Bently looks
better and better ...
suggestion - find another Lexus dealership and tell them your whole story...
I'd strongly believe that if Lexus-California new you had problems with
brakes, need a brake job at 20,000 miles, they would take care of it. We
have 4 dealerships here in Houston and they don't hesitate to take care of
you in an instant since they know they could lose you to the competition.
I had a 2000 RX that the carpet separted from the door guard edge... I
pushed the envelope and told them I felt Lexus quality had let me down and
that they should replace all of the carpet, not just fix it. I picked the
car up the next day with all new carpet - no questions asked and not a dime
out of my pocket while it was in the shop.
I do believe it is all in how your attitude is when you take the vehicle in
for a repair/issue. Print out the TSB and present it to the GM at another
lexus dealer - let them know you are not pleased with the other dealer and
would like their help.
Thanks for the laugh regarding the KIA(Korea's Inadequate Automobile)
comparison! That was too funny. But it's like comparing Rosanne Barr to
Angelina Jolie. One is obviously a lot more desirable than the other.
Although they are *both* likely to be problematic for a man over the long
haul. Cost of ownership will also vary.
Seriously though, Lexus continues to get the highest marks for quality
because they are on *average* the most reliable vehicles made. Their initial
build quality is second to none, and their downstream reliability is highly
likely to exceed that of their competitors. The numbers simply do NOT lie.
It's really hard for a lot of the diehard German and American automobile
manufacturers' fans to accept these facts, but Toyota Motor Co. does make
the best cars in the world as a general rule. Certainly not the prettiest or
fanciest, but the tightest and most reliable titles are difficult to refute.
And yes, they do have their share of problems too. No doubt about it. Just
like anything else that contains a combination of mechanical and electrical
components, they're subject to have failures. As consumers we have to accept
another fact. NO car, SUV or pickup truck is going to be 100% flawless. Some
vehicles will be produced that come really, really close to meeting our
desire for perfection. But the overwhelming majority of the time we will
encounter some sort of issue(s) with our rides. New or used. With that said,
I'll take my chances on a product that is manufactured by Toyota Motor Co.
The odds are more in my favor this way.
Don't leave out the fact that Toyota has the best interior ergonomic design
too. Take a look at the latest round of Nissans, with their futuristic pod
controls that are so complicated, you'd drive into a tree trying to figure
out how to change the radio station. Seems like Nissan has a group of young
executives bent on change for the sake of change, not for the sake of
improvement. I drove a Chrysler recently, and the steering column mounted
gearshift knob obscured the radio controls. Amazing.
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