The Air?

May 13, 2006 14 Replies

Morning All,



This may be a profoundly stupid question from which i'll never recover, but i'll take the risk..



Can the air quality, humidity, pressure etc of any given day have an effect on the smooth running of a diesel?



This is probably my paranoia as i've just had an exhaust blow fixed so am now hearing other things instead of that, but yesterday I could hear something very similar to the normal cold start diesel rattle when the engine was under load at normal running temperature. It certainly wasn't there under cruising (65-70 in 5th mostly for me).



Even if i'm way off with the air idea, could anyone diagnose this? Peugeot 306 HDi '99.



Cheers, Tom.


Well air quality can affect how a petrol engine runs, so I would expect it to have a similar affect on a diesel. I can't see it being the answer to your problem though. Mike.

Probably nothing to do with it but my Citroen HdiSX diesel developed a horribly knocking rattle under load over 3000 rpm. I feared the worst but it turned out to be a knackered crankshaft pulley (which has an internal shock absorber) that had failed.

Tim

Yes. On cold crisp dry mornings the denser air can make a car feel more powerful and responsive compared to a hot humid day.

I can't see that the air would be responsible for that though.

Not just feels more poweful, it *is* going to be more powerful.*

*disclaimer here because there's bound to be the exception to the rule.

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And jolly nice it is, too. All frisky.

All of the turbodiesels I've driven *love* cold, misty mornings in comparison to warm afternoons...

And going past just about to explode oil terminals gives that real boost.

Bad wording on my part. I meant that the difference in power is significant enough to be felt rather than a tiny theoretical change

I really hope thats not it because i've been there and done that and bought the new 125 quid part quite recently.

My local mechanic has used a stethoscope like device (maybe actually a stethoscope) to pinpoint a chirping noise that nobody here could/would identify a while back, which I think must be from the same source at different speeds. That seems to be coming from the top - the region of the camshaft pulley. There isn't much written about those though.

although this maybe true i prefer the warm weather which increases my mileage per gallon and makes my car run a lot smoother.

Ah , but I have the climate control on in warm weather so that reduces economy

It must be the same for petrol cars as inevitably air density is higher (this I guess detected by the MFM to trigger extra fueling). But turbo cars are probably more sensitive (why they can have intercoolers). In hot weather with slow traffic can turn into a real slug..!

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That's why you get a car with a BFO engine ;o)

The 405 with it's unshielded K&N cone filter ran like a pig till you got moving on really hot days, drinking only that red hot engine bay air till a bit of flow got going and the feed could do it's job.

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