This is how environmentalists die

He should have been in a 13mpg Ferrari!

BBC: Andrea Pininfarina, head of a world-famous Italian car design group, has been killed in a road accident.

Mr Pininfarina was riding a scooter which was hit by a car on the outskirts of Turin early on Thursday. He was 51.

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Rich
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I thought I sensed that the Earth Co2 level dropped on Thursday....

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Poetic Justice

Both of them should have been on bicycles or riding public transport

Fran

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Fran

Is there a better heaven to go to when you die Green? Do we get 71 or 72 or 73 virgins?

Smaller lighter better mileage vehicles increase the death rate. Being Green kills people. How many men women and babies have you Green Warriors killed in the last 5 years?

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Poetic Justice

How many trillions have "Green Warriors" wasted on their war against our economy?

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Beam Me Up Scotty

says the person who is most likely to run himself over with a bicycle.........

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columbiaaccidentinvestigation

Both of them should have been on bicycles or riding public transport

Fran

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James

Do you ride a bicycle everywhere or take public transport?

cheers,

Rich

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Rich

I did build Bicycles when I was a kid.. I welded them and created plenty of different kinds, yet I was never run over, I did fall off and crash a few.

Reply to
Poetic Justice

the Greens are special, they don't have to do those things, just tell others to do it.

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Poetic Justice

Yeah, yeah, how about the important stuff. How many virgins did you get?

:-)

Cheers,

Rich

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Rich

Regarding to the subject: Environmentalists don't die, they voluntary self-compost. ROFLMAO

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Peter Muehlbauer

Not enough...

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Poetic Justice

Ok ... here comes the umpteenth strawman/false dilemma

No it doesn't. We 'greens' favour public transport at the expense of personalised transport, which does work out statistically safer. If the bulk of people now in any personal car were in public transport, road trauma would be way down. If some of the residuals were on bikes (or even in smaller lighter vehicles than typical passenger cars), that would still be true. Indeed, just the fact that these bicycles and smaller lighter vehicles would not be comepting for road space with as many other drivers, and the fact that many of the drivers they were competing with would be doing it for a living on a timetable with dozens of people watching them and insisting they drove responsibly, would ensure that.

None. Had we had our way, far fewer would have suffered injuries. Perhaps even more statistically significantly, had we had our way, the human habitat would have been more conducive to health, since the air and water would have been cleaner. A substantial proportion of the populace don't drive cars, but exactly 100% of them have to breathe the air and drink the water.

The real questions are 'how many lives have you pollution advocates shortened, made more costly in time and money terms or less pleasant?'. 'How much of first world obesity or family stress are you responsible for?

That would be a huge figure.

Fran

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Fran

No, I don't.

The error you persistently make is to ignore context and to reduce everything to the action of acontextual individuals.

Riding a bicyle in a city jammed to the rafters with cars is not as safe as riding a bicycle in a city where cars are sparingly used. Taking public transport in a city with plenty of it is far better than where this is not the case.

At this stage, risk/reward IN MY CONTEXT suggests a car.

Were it otherwise, I'd have a different view.

Fran

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Fran

Odd then that you think others should.

More babbling.

So?

Of course.

And what do you know of the contexts of others?

Were it otherwise you would practice what you preach. No chance of that.

Cheers,

Rich

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Rich

This post reminds me of a little bit of news that I saw about a week ago.

Al Gore and his family were at some environmental symposium where, of course, he was babbling on about how we are not doing enough to save the planets. (Probably at $1000 a plate, who knows....) Anyway, a reporter and his camera man go outside and film Al's limo. The limo is outside idling for 45 minutes. The camera man and reporter go tap on the driver's window. The driver lowers the window and the reporters ask him if idling the car is good for the environment. He promply raises the window and keeps the car idling. A few minutes later Al and his family jump into the idling limo with the 50 degree interior and they take off.

DO AS I SAY, NOT AS I DO!!!!!!

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Kruse

More people more trips more stress on the system, more accidents. Bikes carry only one... more bikes will be needed to carry the same number of people... where there were 4 people in one car, you would put

4 bicycles on the roads to become targets.

That's of little solace to the families of the dead bicyclers.

Moving the goal posts doesn't work here... we are talking about transportation and the Green Warriors attack on our freedom choose.

New subject?

You prefer to allow people to be cold and or hot and that leads to health problems. The infirm can't stress themselves by cycling and walking, you will kill them too.

None, we allow people to do and go where and what they please. If you live next to a coal plant... move.

Made up figure.

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Poetic Justice

Worse... Al just doesn't care about the Environment or he would be willing to struggle with smaller vehicles and try to make his footprint as small or smaller than the rest of us that "don't care" about the environment.

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Poetic Justice

please show more of your igorance, as it is most certainly your better side.....

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columbiaaccidentinvestigation

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