205 engine change

Hi,

205-1.6GTI....

WOW. Other than the MI16, sticking to XUs perhaps T16, or a 1.9 Regiani. Damn you can have whatever you want for £2k ! And build yourself a damn fast-like-hell-bullet.

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205 Diesel & turbo-Diesel :

Can't think of any better option than the Mi-16. Would leave you with some change too.

-- R

So I`m in the South of the UK ( Dorset ).,.. is there any well known people down here that could do it,., as I know none !

Me :) Seriously though, I may know a few people that may know someone so I will ask around for you.

Thank you, that would be great....

"" wrote: > I`ve managed to scrape together £2000 for an engine mod to my > 205-1.6GTI.... > what would be the best option... other than an MI-16 > > Thanks

A T16 :D Nah only joking, not for that money anyway. Stick with the Mi16 but try and get a 205 Mi16 loom so you don?t have to butcher yours (try an independent Peugeot specialist for a new one).

A GTi6 would be a more powerful engine but would probably be a pig to fit.

If you are getting bigger brakes check that your alloys will actually fit over them, the pepper pots only just fit over the rear callipers from a 1.9GTi: If you have weights on the wheels they break the brake spring and your pads fall out, as I found out not long ago.

Good luck

Streltsky

Hi there,

So far this is what I`ve done to my little Pug 205 GTI 1.6...

Top strut brace, Lower Strut brace, Group N strut top mounts, Piper cross induction kit, Magnex FULL stainless steel exhaust, Quick shifter linkage, Fully polly race bushed ( front and rear ), Group A rear beam mounts, Spax Kryton Gas shocks + Springs, TSW Apex 15" wheels, Yokahama 195/50x15 A539`s, New calipers ( standard ), New discs ( standard ), Mintex road/rally front pads, Fully goodrige hoses ( front/rear ) Sabelt 4 point harneses, Corbora Bucket seats, Stripped interior,

2nd engine fan fitted in spare space, Mesh grille, italia steering wheel...

I think that`s all... I would like bigger brakes but am unsure as to what to buy seeing that it`s a 1.6 and not a 1.9... I would also like to buy a reconditioned and lowered rear beam.. but can I find one...?

How much difference is there really with fitting a Mi-16 engine...?

A Citroen BX16v engine loom will do the trick

Fits as easily as the Mi16 (XU9J4), but is an XU10 series engine, with a cast iron block, so is heavier. Also the GTi6 engine won't tune as well, or as cheaply as the Mi16. The Mi16 is a racing engine down-tuned for the road, with steel crank, webbed block and huge valve seat inserts that will machine out easily for bigger valves etc etc.

-- R

For the front, go for Pug 206 Gti 180 front discs and calipers, they are a bolt on replacement and well worth the effort.

How about a Pug 309 rear axle, its wider than the 205 item and gives you rear discs as well.

160 bhp standard, 130lb ft torque. If you get rid of the engine management and fit the 1.9 dizzy and a set of Webbers you'll be looking at 180bhp. The engine will go to about 220bhp for about a grand, and on a standard bottom end. That's up in "Killing Subaru's Dead" category.

Put "205 Mi16" into Google. There is days of reading material there, including "Autofive" who market a conversion kit.

Good Luck

-- R

So an MI16 engine,309 rear beam... and 206 disc.. will they fit my 1.6 GTI...? Also where can I buy a recondistioned rear beam, as I can`t find anyone..

Also note that there are different varieties of pepperpot alloys. It all depends on where they were made. There's one set that will not fit over 1.9 GTi front brakes (as I found out) unless you attack the calipers with a grinder. But the other 2 sets are slightly different and will clear them (and are also stronger). I've got it written down somewhere if anyone is interested.

There's a place in Devon somewhere that will fit a recon beam for about £400. Can find out the name if you like, as I know someone that had it done on his 309 GTi.

Havent had much like in finding places that will do an Mi16 conversion, as the people I know that had one, brought the car with the engine done, and had no further info. But if you wanted to do it yourself (its not *that* hard) consider talking to Dave Baker about engine upgrades, and he'll supply you with some good kit and knows his stuff. This article (by him) is a good read:

A while back I asked my local specialist if they could fit new torsion bars. They replied with "It would be cheaper for us to fit a whole new assembly" not sure how much they would charge but it is probably under £500. Their website is

Although they are a Cirtoenspecialist they also know their way around Peugeots much more than thedealers.

The 309 has a higher ride height at the rear so I suggest you steer clear of an assembly from them. The 1.9GTi 205 also has a wider rear assembly and rear discs but you will need a pair of inline compensators or a dashboard based adjustable compensator for the discs. I?m not sure how a 1.6GTi rear/front split braking system would cope with rear discs but my 205D (diagonal split) is running fine with rear discs.

Streltsky

Also note that there are different varieties of pepperpot alloys. It all depends on where they were made. There's one set that will not fit over 1.9 GTi front brakes (as I found out) unless you attack the calipers with a grinder. But the other 2 sets are slightly different and will clear them (and are also stronger). I've got it written down somewhere if anyone is interested.

-- R