What I learnt from charging my Prius

A distinction without a difference. The Volt has a gas tank and a battery. The Prius has a gas tank and a battery. Both have two energy supplies. Both are hybrids, the specific hardware for turning the wheels not-with-standing.

Reply to
Al Falfa
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The Volt is technology that is years ahead of any hybrid, it is a true electric, dummy. It's only motivate source of power to the wheels is its electric motor. The engine can not motivate the vehicle. Hybrids are outdated technology. If you do not drive over 40 miles at a time and plug it in, the engine will never need to run.

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Mike Hunter

Actually, it is a hybrid. It is called a "plug-in hybrid." And you call the other poster a dummy. A hybrid means it uses more than one source of energy. And it does. It uses both gasoline (or another fuel like diesel or ethanol) and electricity.

Jeff

Reply to
dr_jeff

Nobody was talking about the Volt. Why did you think anyone was?

Reply to
Elmo P. Shagnasty

Absolutely not. The Prius has exactly one energy supply: gasoline. No other form of energy is placed into the car from any other source.

The Volt takes both gasoline and electricity in from outside sources.

The Prius and the Volt are two entirely different technologies. The Prius is NOT an electric car by any stretch of the imagination, no matter how hard the fanbois want it to be.

Reply to
Elmo P. Shagnasty

201v.
Reply to
Elmo P. Shagnasty

Just like the alternator in a non-Prius charges the battery. Sure. BUT: just like with a normal car, the car has to be running (in a Prius they call it Ready) for that to happen. And for the Prius to be in Ready mode, the 12v battery has to be good.

Reply to
Elmo P. Shagnasty

What "two dozen klaxons" turn on in YOUR car when you turn the wheel?

Not when the pedals are way far apart and on completely separate planes of existence.

If you are confused enough by the parking brake position such that you mistake it for the regular brake, you should be taken before a judge and declared incompetent.

Reply to
Elmo P. Shagnasty

NHW10: 288V NHW11: 273.6V NHW20: 201.6V ZVW30: 201.6V

Reply to
Daniel who wants to know

Let's not get into the kinetic energy thing again. You can split hairs all you want, Elmo, but most cars can't run on the kinetic energy they capture.

Reply to
Al Falfa

It doesn't matter how the Prius manages the available energy; what matters is how you put energy into the drive system, period.

With the Prius, you put in gasoline. Period. The Prius is not an electric car, anymore than your television is a microcomputer.

The Volt, however, takes electricity in from the outside. Way, way different--and that makes it an electric car.

Reply to
Elmo P. Shagnasty

Two dozen klaxons of the nearby cars.

Reply to
urod

No, I drive Prius for two years, and there were no problems weith not pushing my brake pedal far enough. Besides, I saw the green, not red, light on the Power button, which means the car was in the Running mode.

I don't understand this part. What starter it has? Which battery starts the engine?

I hit READY at the first time, too.

I never saw 1 pink bar before. The car was always at least 2 pink bars.

Reply to
urod

It doesn't have a starter or alternator.

It has two motor-generators that are intricately and elegantly tied in as part of the drive system. The gas engine is one component, the two MG are two other components.

When the drive system senses that it needs to add energy from the outside to get the car to do what the driver wants, the MG is engaged to the output shaft of the gas engine to turn it, then the computer turns on the ignition and fuel.

Reply to
Elmo P. Shagnasty

I suppose you will be pulling the batteries and MGs from your Prius then. This will lighten your load and should, by your reasoning, improve your gas mileage.

Reply to
Al Falfa

You are entitled to you own opinion no mater how convoluted it may be. The engine, that only runs the generator and can NOT motivate the vehicle, runs at a constant RPM for maximum efficiency.

The EPA is currently working on a CAFE method for pure electrics. The current rating method used for HYBRIDS would require the EPA to indicate over 120 MPG for the Volts city mileage.

Reply to
Mike Hunter

Well you can get after-market modifications to the Prius that allow it to operate as a plug-in hybrid. The Volt will drive the wheels only from electric motors. The HSD on Toyotas is much more complex and the gasoline engine can (and usually does) drive the wheels directly).

Reply to
SMS

Not quite that simple; the traction battery is initially charged from an outside source of electricity.

But it also uses a gasoline engine to charge the battery when in motion after the battery is depleted.

Reply to
Michelle Steiner

That is WHY one is a modern pure electric and the other a hybrid, using outdated technology

Reply to
Mike Hunter

well, note that I said "YOU" put in gasoline.

The car is delivered from the delivering dealer all full up with energy. To replace that energy, the owner--any owner, at any time down the road--fills it with gasoline. That is the ONLY source of energy that the car takes in after it leaves the factory.

Yep--and then the battery runs the electric motors that drive the wheels. Unlike the Prius, the Volt has zero mechanical connection between the gasoline engine and the wheels.

The Volt is an electric car, or at best a dual-fuel car.

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Elmo P. Shagnasty

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