NextGen 900s, differences?

I am completely out of the loop when it comes to the new 900s (94+). I know there is S and SE, 4 and 6 Cyl. engines. What is the mark for the 4 Cyl Turbo engine? I thought it was SE, but I see some SEs that are 6 cyl. Also, some listings are for SE turbo, and others not. Can someone please clarify how I can identify a 4Cyl turbo.

The reason I ask, and correct me if I am wrong, is that I have heard from several of the dealers here in Minnesota, US, that the GM introduced 6 cyl was a very poor engine. I am in the market for a second car and was curious to look at the NG Saabs.

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Anon-e-mouse
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The V6 was a lousy engine, as actually most V6's tend to be. The NG900's are decent cars, but they don't really feel much like a Saab.

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James Sweet

I second the motion. I drive a Classic 900 and I bought a car for my daughter to learn to drive. I had a choice between a Classic 900 turbo and a 1994 V6 900 SE. I bought the V6 NG 900 for two reasons. First, I just could not see a Classic 900 Turbo sacrificed as a 'learning' car, knowing it will be beat up and possibly totaled. Second, the newer NG

900 was less expensive, so it was more affordable as a sacrificial car. With both cars being driven weekly, I can directly compare the two. The NG900 is no comparison to the Classic 900. The V6 engine idles rough, gets less mileage and has less power. The brakes and suspension are not as responsive. The visibility is typical of most newer cars with a flat windshield and thick A pillars - it is bad, but no worse than a Camry or Accord. I bought the NG900 with a warranty and had it in the shop for for electrical repairs for the warranty period. The only things that need repair now are the power mirrors and the hatch hydraulic lifters.

Does anyone have any experience/comments on the MONROE Part # 901600 [MAX-LIFT GAS-CHARGED LIFT SUPPORT] HATCH;w/ Spoiler.

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ma_twain

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don_nk

Sun, 27 Mar 2005 11:43:34 -0600, snipped-for-privacy@DOE.COM suggested: : I am completely out of the loop when it comes to the new 900s (94+). I : know there is S and SE, 4 and 6 Cyl. engines. What is the mark for the 4 : Cyl Turbo engine? I thought it was SE, but I see some SEs that are 6 : cyl. Also, some listings are for SE turbo, and others not. Can someone : please clarify how I can identify a 4Cyl turbo.

If it's an SE Turbo, it's a 4-cyl. If it's a regular SE, then it's probably a 6-cyl, depending on the year (I believe the V6 was discontinued after 1997). The 2.5-liter is the V6. If I recall correctly, the V6 models I've seen have had a little 'V6' on the grille (but not on the rear).

The S model is a non-turbo 2.3-liter 4-cylinder. The turbo models are all 2.0-liter engines, I'm pretty sure.

: The reason I ask, and correct me if I am wrong, is that I have heard : from several of the dealers here in Minnesota, US, that the GM : introduced 6 cyl was a very poor engine. I am in the market for a second : car and was curious to look at the NG Saabs.

I have a 1995 900 S, and while it's no Classic, it is still a pretty decent car at 180,000 miles. I have been told, however, that my experience is the exception.

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andrewunix

This is very country specific. The original poster needs to post where he's at. What you posted is true for the USA I believe. The SE's are mostly turbo's, but I have heard tell of SE V6's. Look for the "2.0 turbo" label on the back or just look under the hood.

Yes.

I have a '97 900Se turbo. A very nice car. A few things have gone wrong, there are some things that could be better designed, but it is still far ahead of other cars of the era. It is luxurious, comfortable, handles well with minor mods (which I do to every car I won), is very powerful and easily increased in that area, and for the most part has superior engineering to other makes. There are some engineering missteps, not all of them can be blamed on GM. Not to mention, it is much newer than any classic. Where I live, cars as old as the classics will have rust problems. So, some of us like our NG900's very much.

I think we need to compare apples to apples. All cars underwent major changes in the 70's, 80's, and 90's. We know for sure that what has happened in the auto industry over the last decade has not been pleasing to auto enthusiasts for the most part. Saab may almost be an exception through the 90's... although the last few years have been serious trouble.

Back on topic: If you buy an NG900, look for an SE turbo with all the fixins, then come back here and we'll tell you how to make it handle like a sporting machine should and how to pull some more power out of the motor (as well as tell you what needs to be maintained).

Bob

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Bob

Any help on improving the AC/Heat system - specifically the weak fan? I have been told this was fixed by going to the 9-3.

Not to mention, it is

Sometimes you get lucky and find a classic that was maintained and does not have rust. The commemorative versions would have likely been garage kept. My 1993 900 has very minor rust while my 94 NG900 is showing its age with alot more rust.

So, some of us like our NG900's very much.

There is a difference between liking a car and being fanatical about a car.

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ma_twain

Sat, 02 Apr 2005 15:04:39 GMT, snipped-for-privacy@ultranet.com suggested: : : This is very country specific. The original poster needs to post where : he's at. What you posted is true for the USA I believe. The SE's are : mostly turbo's, but I have heard tell of SE V6's. Look for the "2.0 : turbo" label on the back or just look under the hood.

He did, if you go back and read the original post. He's in Minnesota.

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andrewunix

Sat, 02 Apr 2005 14:52:10 -0500, ma snipped-for-privacy@yahoo.com suggested: : : Any help on improving the AC/Heat system - specifically the weak fan? I : have been told this was fixed by going to the 9-3.

Do a lot of people have a problem with this? It's always been sufficient for my needs, but then I never sit in the back seat.

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andrewunix

Missed that. So, unless he is looking at a car from Canada, the statements apply.

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Bob

Very unusual in New England due to the salt issues... but it's possible.

Agreed. My car is terrific... but I don't get fanatical for anything that does not have "exotic" mentioned in the "for sale" description.

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Bob

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