Selling a vehicle without a title

If it's over 25 years old go title it in Ala-damn-bama and get one of their titles...and then take a titled vehicle to South Caro-lieing-ya and get a SC title.

Lee,

In Vermont titles are only required for cars that are 15 years old or newer. For cars older than that just bring a bill of sale to DMV to get the registration and plates. The only caveat is that they check the price on the bill of sale against the "Old Cars Value Guide" category #3 value to determine the amount for the 6% purchase and use (sales) tax that needs to be paid at the time of registration. I lucked out on the 62 Lark convertible I bought in March when the lady behind the counter looked in the wrong (2 dr. sedan ) category and said the $5000 purchase price was okay. I didn't feel it appropriate to notify a DMV official that they might have made a mistake.

But then I'd have to add $200 to my reserve price. I think I'll leave it up to the high bidder when the time comes... hopefully they live in a state that has a little more common sense. I wonder what prompted the "No weapons past this point" signs on the doors.

I guess it could be worse, I told my sob story to a friend of mine earlier and he said I should try taking someone to small claims court in this state. He said he went to court three times, stood in line four times filling out the correct state forms, and when it was all said and done, the other guy was still found guilty and told to pay the money owed. Three years later and my friend still hasn't seen a dime... but paid close to $200 in state form fees and court costs.

Lee

In Wisconsin the only word they know is 'NO'. They almost lock you up if you show up with an Alabama title.

Studeski Claude Chmielewski snipped-for-privacy@netzero.com

Fillmore, Wisconsin

1947 M16 Truck 1962 GT Hawk 1963 Lark 1964 Commander Wagonaire

Lee Aanderud wrote:

I'd bid, I'm now buddies with the supervisor at the local MVA and she's very easy to work with.

GTtim wrote:

Can you have her call the lady I dealt with and ask her what the hell her problem is?

Lee

Kin I do that in Texas?

JT

Loy Daniel wrote:

In RI, vehicles over ten years of age do not require titles...

JT

Lee Aanderud wrote:

I've been through getting a title twice, once in Mn and once in ND.

Assuming laws haven't changed.....

In Mn I needed to get the seller to fill in and sign a "Statement of Fact" form from the DMV as to why there was no title. This in addition to the bill of sale. I then needed to provide the DMV with photos of the vehicle so they could determine its value. From there, I needed to buy bond insurance for I think 2 or maybe it was 3yrs against that value. In my case I provided photos of my '53 stude as I found it in the woods (figuring it looked its worst....). The DMV decided it was worth $900. This was back in '92-'93. After all that I paid the sales tax on the $900 and also the $100 to the insurance company plus whatever other fees, etc.

In ND, I needed a notarized bill of sale and had to have the cops come out to check the VIN and fill in and sign off a form I had to get from the DMV. Other than that it was the normal paperwork fees. Getting the notarized bill was the most difficult since I had to deal with it through the mail and it took months. I'd got that car at a salvage yard "going out of business" auction and the auctioneer was at least willing to work with me and get a notary but it took patience. The sales tax was paid off what I actually paid for the car too unlike Mn.

Looking back, they were both plenty of hassle and it took a couple months in each case to get all the ducks in a row. At least the ND instance was cheaper since I didn't need to buy that bond insurance. After all this trouble I can see why buying a car w/o a title is going to make a pretty big impact on the sale price. Factor in the actual costs and all the pain and suffering on the part of the buyer.

Jeff in ND

Lee Aanderud wrote: