Possible Good Deals on '04

I learned this tidbit in a similar trip to my local dealer: the 05's are supposedly very different in body styling--the new generation if you will.

In addition to getting a good deal on 04's, you'll be getting the last, most mature year of a generation versus the first run of a major production change. Traditional wisdom says it's worth waiting a bit for them to work out the kinks a while and not be too eager to be the first on yer block with a new one. :-)

-- Todd H.

The '05 Legacy series is brand new. I saw an OBW- very nice. The sales guy said there are major changes in the sedan, especially the rear.

Feasterville,

I just bought an '04 35th Anniversary wagon 5spd silver that listed for

Feasterville,

I was first on the block with a 2000 OBW and it proved to be the most reliable and dependable car I have ever had. I plan on being first on the block with a 2005 OBW!

Ron

They ruined the interior. Too maxima looking. Also too pricy. Subaru will hurt themselves by going upscale

In Jan I got an OBw with sticker of 25.600 for 19.800 with 3.9 and 1000. Only the Baja had better deals

My 03 Impreza wagon was under 16K.

I'm looking for a 2004 Forester XT Premium. As the 2005 models are currently trickling in, I imagine that I'd be able to get a fairly good deal on a 2004 model. Has anybody bought one recently? How much?

I'm wondering if something like $21K is possible...

Best quote I got for a XT prem & leather package was - $25174/- in East Bay near San Francisco.

I am also in the market for a Forester. I cannot make up my mind on whether to wait for 2005s or go for 2004. I like the XS trim for their fuel economy. So I am not sure if it is worth the wait for

Yet another person in the same boat and I am also leaning towards the XS trim for the same reason. The best quote I have for the XS prem and leather package is roughly about $1400 below invoice (the quotes range from $300 below invoice to $1400 below invoice for the four dealers I am talking to, these are all Internet quotes).

Should I be negotiating harder (I have hardly tried thus far, these are their first quotes)?

The way these dealers knock off every grand was amazingly educational. Over the weekend, I went and test drove Toyota Highlander. The vehicle I test drove was a limited edition with leather package. He said it would sell for 29K before the test drive. After the test drive he started at 27K. And throughout the test drive I only praised the car (the ride was good!). The best internet quote I had received for these vehicle was approx 28K.

So my point is, you may be able to go unimaginably low price on these vehicles especially since they want to make room for the '05s.

Most car makers give the dealers holdbacks of about 3% for each car they sell. So if they take a grand off for you toyota etc gives it back.. Used cars and service is where they make the most. Anyone paying more than $500 over invoice on a new car is a sucker.

How does your left arm feel sitting on the non-shelf door when you drive?

toyoya certianlly cut some corners (and money/comfort) buy making that small enough for a 11 year old....WHILE DRIVING!

You get what you pay for

Hmmmm????

Most toyota buyers are paying about $2500 over invoice. Its the american cars that are discounting..Thus the depreciation the Toyota delars mention...Its all a number game