>> >>
>>> But that's not what the Waltons believe. The couple from Boiling >>> Springs,
>>> N.C., were driving to Murrells Inlet, S.C., Oct. 9 when their 2008 >>> Toyota
>>> Prius surged on a marshy four-lane highway.
>>>
>>> It all started when, after slowing down through a small coastal >>> town,
>>> Walton said he hit the resume-acceleration button on his cruise >>> control.
>>>
>>> "All of a sudden, we were flying and I hadn't touched the pedal," >>> said
>>> Grover, a retired property manager.
>>
>> I'm certainly not the world's smartest person, but I know enough to
>> TURN OFF THE CRUISE CONTROL WHEN I GET OFF THE HIGHWAY.
>
> The post says they hit resume after they passed through the small
> coastal town. I assume they were on the highway.
>
>
>
> Once I turn on my cruise control, I don't turn it off (it does reset
> to off when I cut off the car). The little doohickey that Toyota uses
> for the cruise control takes some getting use to. I am not even sure
> how to cut it off. It took me a few minutes just to figure out how to
> turn it on the first time I drove the SO's RAV4. I also wonder about
> the value of turning it off if this is a software problem. The cruise
> control switches are not actul hard switches like in the old days.
> They are just signaling devices that tell the computer you want the
> cruise control off. If the software is hosed up, that might not be any
> better than hitting the brakes. I guess I am starting to understand
> why Ford but that stupid hydraulic switch in the brake circuit.... >
>
>
> I wonder if this isn't more of a panic problem than an actual car
> problem. Here is what I think may have happened...
>
>
>
> The driver hit the resume button at a fairly low speed compared to the
> previous set point. If his Prius cruise control react anything like my
> SO's RAV4 (or my older Sister's RAV4) the computer tried to accelerate
> the car back up to the set point speed as quickly as possible (the
> SO's RAV4 reacts violently in this situation). When the car jerked and
> started accelerating hard to get back to the set point speed, the
> driver reacted improperly because he thought the car was running wild.
> Actually the computer was trying to get back to the old set point as
> quickly as possible. Because the driver thought the car was running
> wild he jammed on the brakes. He did get his foot on the brake pedal,
> but he also inadvertently pressed on the accelerator pedal as well. So
> while he thought he was braking hard, he was also pressing on the > accelerator.
I don't see anything in the story about also pressing the accelerator. I think maybe somebody's assuming "facts not in evidence".
At any rate, pressing the brake pedal is supposed to (required to?) cut off the cruise control. Clearly from what is said in the story, it didn't. That's grounds for a recall right there.
At that point he was sure the car was running away and he
> pressed even harder, resulting in the situation described in the post.
> I don't know how the pedals are arranged in the Prius, but in the RAV4
> this is something that can happen to someone with large feet. The
> pedals ae very close together and if you are not careful you can end
> up pressing both at once. And it is not just Toyotas that have this
> problem. An Expedition I owned had exactly the same problem...I could
> easily press both pedals at once in a panic situation.
>
>
>
> This is starting to look like a lot of other media driven frenzies
> (Audi 5000, Chey truck gas tanks, Explorer Tires, etc.). The media
> over hypes the story, jumps to some erroneous conclusions, and people
> start crawling out of the woodwork claiming they have that problem
> also. And then the trial lawyer et involved and things go to s*%t. I
> already see Clarance Ditlow name in some articles on this subject. He
> is about as crooked a snake as ever slithered out from under a rock. >
>
>
> I have complained about how jerky and violent the RAV4 cruise control
> can be. Toyota has a service bulletin that addresses the concern. So
> far I have not been able to get the SO to take her RAV4 in to get it
> reprogrammed. I was talking to my sister about this whole cruise
> control concern the other night. I mentioned that I tried to get the
> SO to take in her RAV4 to get the cruise control reprogrammed. My
> sister said she didn't need to take hers in because the cruise control
> worked OK. I then mentioned how the SO's reacted in some situations
> (the violent acceleration) and she said, "oh yeah mine does that
> too"...and so she is going to take hers in to get it looked after. It
> is my thought that this violent reaction by the cruise control to
> resume under some conditions causes people to react improperly.
> Interestingly my other sister's RAV4 with the V6 does not react the > same at all.
>
>
>
> Ed
>
>
>
>> A lot of driving is just plain Common Sense.
>> A lot of people just plain don't have it.
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