Re: How do you "tune up" a hard-to-start Craftsman 18" chainsaw

Aug 21, 2010 60 Replies

If you'll look up how a two cycle engine works, you will understand why the air came out where it did. The position of the piston is what acts like the valves in a four cycle engine by uncovering the intake port or the exhaust port. If the reed valve is good, there shouldn't be any air coming out of the carburetor. Here's a link to an animation that shows how a two stroke engine works:

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A bad reed valve could keep it from running on compressed air.

TDD

Sorry, but I've had little to no experience with chainsaws and

2-stroke yard tools, despite their being the same engines. In fact, I had a terrible time with the chainsaws and gas trimmers I inherited when my brother passed away. I couldn't get any of them to start, either, mainly cuz they were all junk, with cracked primer bulbs and hardened broken fuel lines and cracked plug wires. There's some real crappy merchandise being foisted off on the public, these days. :(

nb

Check that the gasket between the carb and engine is good, that the carb is bolted on tightly, and that the crankcase cover[1] is bolted on tightly and with a good seal. On most of these engines the carb's fuel pump runs from crankcase pressure, so if there are any leaks in the system all sorts of strange things can happen - after ruling out spark and fuel line/filter, I'd try there next I think.

Also pull the flywheel; it might be that the flywheel key has sheared and the timing's out a little - maybe not enough to stop it running (with a loss of power, but that might not be noticable), but enough to make it hard to start.

[1] taking the cover off for a moment just to see if the bore is damaged might not be a bad idea, either.

(re. compression, I posted here about a 4-stroke mower engine earlier in the year; that one turned out to be compression loss due to bore damage, even though it felt like it had "enough" compression when I stuck my thumb over the spark plug hole)

cheers

Jules

I would recommend you go straight to "B". An honest saw mechanic can either fix this rascal quickly, or he can tell you it isnt worth fixing.

I never bought a saw on the net. My first chain saw was an Echo, and it was a heck of a good saw. Then I bought a Husqvarna (also a great saw, stolen by a couple of drugheads), and then a replacement Husqvarna.

I dont know if an internet company CAN ship a noncomplying saw to California.

Note that some saws have what they used to call 50 hour engines. That is about the life expectancy of them.

Or you get a "Friday engine", assembled by someone who is itching to get away for the weekend and so not paying as much attention to their work as they should :-(

This is the California Poulan owners manual for my Craftsman chain saw.

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Unfortunately you can't adjust anything when/if the carb gets clogged.

It's California's way of stimulating the economy while saving the environment.

It either works or you throw it away and buy a new one every two years.

Stihl chainsaws are top rated chainsaws. Last year, a guy who lives across the street from me borrowed my old Remington electric chain saw.He told me he is an old country boy and he knows all about chainsaws.HA!, he couldn't even figure out how to turn it on, I showed him half a dozen times and also how to keep the chain adjusted properly.About half an hour later, he brought it back over here.The chain was off the bar and all snaggled up and a little metal plate which keeps the chain from flying off of the clutch was broken.He broke my chainsaw. I have owned a few gas engine chainsaws before, but I never broke any of them.

Last year, he couldn't figure out how to find the oil drain plug on the bottom of his lawn mower.He pushed his lawn mower over here, he said, Show me where that oil drain plug is! Only took me a few seconds to show him.He was to lazy to wipe his hand under there and look for that oil drain plug. cuhulin

Now you got it! It even has a name: planned obsolescence.

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In message , Jules Richardson writes

This was the problem with British cars. Every car was a Friday afternoon car.

and it's just great for the environment, all that taking stuff to the dump and making replacements...

I just fixed the wife's 31 yr old Kitchenaid dishwasher (motor bearing and seal kit). You can't buy 'em as good anymore. Hobart made a fine machine.

Nah! The cars were cool!

Blame it on Lucas, the Prince of Darkness.

I don't believe that 'Friday engine' stuff. However, those little bitty two stroke engines can be as fickle as a fickle woman.

Four stroke gas engine weed trimmers are available most everywhere nowadays.How come they don't make some four stroke gas engine chainsaws? cuhulin

In message , snipped-for-privacy@webtv.net writes

You hold a chainsaw, and the advantage of a two stroke is it's light weight for the power output. Against however is it's inability to meet emissions regulations.

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In the search window, type 4 cycle gas engine chainsaws. Click on the rigidforum site. cuhulin

In message , snipped-for-privacy@webtv.net writes

Honda, a firm of longstanding repute has made all manor of things from chain saws through to portable generators and as far as I know have never made a two stroke. Four strokes are much more reliable but as two strokes only need the crankshaft as a rotating part, they are much simpler to make and lighter,but as I said, cannot meet emissions regulations. Two strokes by their design burn oil, which is the source of pollution, and also causes plug fouling and carbon build up in the silencer.

Honda develops Japan's first exhaust gas purification system for 2 cycle motorcycle engines.

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Back in the 1970's I saw an ad in my local newspaper classifieds for a used Honda moped for sale.I bought that Honda moped for $35.00.It ran ok for a few years, of course it had a 4 cycle engine.A few years later, I bought a moped wheel at a local scrap metal yard.The wheel had a gas engine which was built within the wheel.I think it was a Honda wheel, I don't exactly remember now. cuhulin

I've owned a few 70's British cars over the years and to be honest never had much problem with Lucas - no worse than electrics in other cars. Moisture seems to be the main killer, not quality issues with the parts themselves.

cheers

Jules

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