removal of junk cars - diminishing return

Don Bruder wrote in news:45aeefce$0$69008$ snipped-for-privacy@news.sonic.net:

And is not even necessary. A simple common-law trespass would be enough in that case. Or would have before the activists, socialists and lawyers got involved.

Trespass these days is sort of like the 9th amendment: Utterly sensible, and utterly ignored.

my question was not so much about mechanical durability as about laziness. if a car has sat around for 6 months on blocks is it's lazy owner ever going to 'get around to fixing it'? I suspect in most cases the answer is no.

it's kind of like the theory about one broken window in a neighborhood going unfixed, being the first step to the neighborhood turning into a slum. But that's getting off topic.

And so goes the desire to control everyone.

I've had a car that's been off the road for almost a year now. I've been actively working on it pretty much every weekend up until very recently. It will run again, this I can guarantee.

nate

This city of confusion I live in is on a round up.They are rounding up vehicles which don't have a current safety sticker,no current license plate sticker/decals,oviously been sitting for six months,partialy dismantled.About three years ago,I bought a 1948 Willys Jeep.The Jeep is completly worn out,has two burnt valves.A friend of mine who lives outside of this city is storing my Jeep on his property untill I figure out what to do with my Jeep.I have a big old shed in my back yard,the shed is in terrible condition.I hope to soon tear down the old shed and build a new one.Then I can get my Jeep back and go to work on it.Of course I am too fat nowdays to get behind the steering wheel of the Jeep,but that is beside the point. cuhulin

Some people will not fix them. If you want to do something about it, check your city's zoning laws. Call in enforcement, if you have zoning. If not, go to the city government and lobby to get it enacted.

As I mentioned earlier, I sat on the zoning board here for a year to get a fair but workable zoning ordinance in place for a vote by the city elders. It has now been enacted.

We DEFINITELY dealt with the issue of junk cars, or other cars, parked in the front yards and driveways. If people want to keep junkers, they can do it in their back yards behind fences or in their garages, out of sight of the neighbors.

Otherwise, no.

So if you have no legal refuge, work to get it enacted. Or move.

With all due respect to you, Don, the municipality has the right and the responsibility to enact laws of this type. The individuals have rights, of course, but not to the exclusion of the rights of the neighbors.

I didnt have to do that with my project RX-7. I kept it in my carport at the back of the house for three years, and only had to pay the registration every year. I did not have to insure it as it was not to be driven.

Of course, it was not an eyesore,and was not in a driveway or front yard.

I agree that some junkers should be hauled off.However,there are a lot of classic cars/vehicles/antique vehicles out there.I also believe classic cars/vehicles/antique vehicles should be kept out of sight from the neighbors in a shed or fenced in back yard out of sight.Some owners of such vehicles,if they don't plan on restoring them,or have someone else do it for them,might be better off if they sell the vehicles.Advertise them in the newspaper classifieds or on the internet,whatever.I buy a new Hemmings Motor News magazine once or twice each year just for general reading and I see quite a few old vehicles for sale in the ads. cuhulin

'other cars'?

Where I live the city ordinances apply to inoperable vehicles in visible disrepair such as missing an engine or wheels. Enforcement however is against any vehicle that appears to them not to be used on the street regardless of condition. Color of law. I tried to explain the ordinances to the cops, they couldn't be bothered. I tried to get the judge to read them, he refused to. The ordinance book sat on a cart 10+ feet away from the judge.

I love these inoprable laws some towns have my truck fits most of them lol. honestly if you dont like that the guy has shit in his yard ask him if he could build a fence so you dont have to look at it hell if u helped it would probably get done instead of trying to have his stuff hauled off to the junk yard. You might even go ask the guy the guy what his plans are with the cars. Dont go crying to the city b/c you feel your more important than the next guy.

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SORN's only been around for one or two years or so. I suspect your situation predated that.

Nope. Actually, I just sold the RX.

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Really? According to the stuff I've been reading, failure to declare SORN is a fine-able offense. Maybe they have to discover you before you get caught.

Did they ever haul off Onslow's old car in the Keeping Up Appearances British tv comedies.I bet Mrs.Bucket always wanted that old car hauled off. cuhulin

Maybe they do. When I bought this car, I went through all the proper procedures to change the registration, including proof of ownership of insurance, etc. I explained that it was a project car and would not be driven. Local and state officials said no problem. And for several years I just renewed the plates and registration. No safety inspection, etc, were needed, nor was I required to carrry the car on my insurance. (I just had to show that I had insurance on another car, not this car).

Maybe I broke some law, maybe not. At any rate, it is over now.

Had I been a bit more meticulous, Tegger, I would have noted that SORN is a UK situation. Living in Texas, we have a bit more leeway.

Out in the West and the midwest where the climate isn't so humid,you see old vehicles sitting out in the country and those old vehicles mostly only have surface rust.I remember when I lived in Salina,Kansas in 1957 in the summertime,mostly only my armpits were wet and sweaty. cuhulin

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I was wondering about that...