Another sign of GM's desperation

My point is that young people have been disfiguring cars for as long as cars have existed. You can watch movies from the 50s and see some really stupid-looking modifications.

Kids will always try to individualize cars, in order to stand out.

Natalie

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Wickeddoll
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Adults will often try to individualize cars, houses, bicycles,their bodies, whatever they have, in order to stand out, too.

However, not all kids try to individualize cars, though. Many don't have cars. And many who do, have other things to do.

Jeff

Jeff

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Jeff

That's incorrect. Toyota is selling more cars that GM. The US is not the only market.

Jeff

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Jeff

Not to the ridiculous extent kids do, though. Not usually, anyway.

Of course I'm talking only about kids who can afford to customize their car. My son can't afford to do anything with his '96 Mitsubishi Gallant, but he would if he could.

:-P

Natalie

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Wickeddoll

Don't read the news much, do you Mike?

Toyota Surpassed GM in First Quarter Sales

According to quarterly sales results announced today, Toyota became the world?s number one car company for sales for the first three months of this year. Toyota surpassed General Motors, the world leader for 76 years, for the first time.

According to Edmunds.com Senior Analyst Jesse Toprak, "This was not an unexpected turn of events, but it happened a bit earlier than forecasted because of GM?s decision to cut fleet sales. GM wasn?t making much money on those cars anyway, so the financial picture isn?t dramatically different than before. All GM sacrificed in this decision was ego, since the executives knew Toyota would become number one sooner when much of GM?s fleet sales were removed from the count."

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Gordon McGrew

Not so huge as it may look. We have a '97 Camry and a 2003 Avalon, which, when my wife first drove it, thought that it was too big. But I prevailed and we bought it anyway. Then I measured it and found that the Avalon is 6 inches longer, and 3 inches wider at the bottom of the windows. It seems much larger when you sit in the two cars, but it's not that much bigger. And yes, it's pricey, but we bought a year old one from Hertz auto sales, for less than a new Camry would have cost, and got a sunrroof, alloy wheels, all leather interior, a six CD changer, driving lights, a compass (display) and oodles more. We're very happy with it, and you can drive it 500 miles in a day and not feel as if you're crippled at the end of the day.

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mack

If a large car is wanted, & is affordable, I agree that the Avalon woyuld be great.

But I'm used to driving a Corolla! And... one day Toyota lent me a Camry for the day. I arrived at work - where the parking spaces used to be very limited - and found a space, only to discover that the Camry wouldn't fit into the space - which my Corolla would've; so imagine an Avalon... it's all relative.

Cathy

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Cathy F.

Does that mean you believe the football team with the highest score in the first quarter 'won' the game, as well? LOL

mike

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Mike Hunter

If one want a bigger safer car, they might drive and price a 2007 FULL size Ford 500. It is bigger than the Avalon and sells for $13,000 less, with similar equipment. Better yet try a CV or GM, both are V8s, much bigger, and still sell for $8,000 less and easily get 25 MPG

mike

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Mike Hunter

were you a hippy?

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someone

Who needs a v-8? only two more cylinders to pay for and buy gas for. And my Avalon gets usually 29 - 30 mpg (highway) and sometimes over that. And my little 210 hp gets me out of an onramp and into traffic just fine.

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mack

I know where you're coming from Cathy, and that is why my wife still likes to drive the 10 year old Camry around town...she says she doesn't care if it gets a little parking lot rash, whereas if it happened to the Avalon, she'd be sad ...and angry. As for me and the Avalon, I figure it may be the last car I'll own, and so I'm treating myself.

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mack

Do you think that the team with the lower score in the first quarter is winning? Do you think that the company that sold fewer cars in the first quarter "still sells more cars" than the one that sold more? LOL, yourself.

At best, GM is about tied with Toyota. Everyone knows that Toyota is going to pass GM. It looks like it will be this year, but if not then it will be next year. It is entirely possible that there will never be another quarter where GM outsells Toyota.

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Gordon McGrew

This is one of the few smart GM marketing moves of recent times. Encourage people to compare the product to the benchmark right then and there, without sending them to the competition to check 'em out.

John

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John Horner

I sure hope not. Personally I test drive a wide range of vehicles before setting my sites on what I want to buy. Don't you try on a number of options in new clothes or shoes before picking the ones to buy? I sure do.

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John Horner

For clothing, I choose 1 - 3 options in each - whether it's color or sizes that will possibly "work" - to try on. Same with cars: I narrow it down to

2 - 3 choices via plenty of research first (usually 2 - 3 months' worth of reading & sifting through). *Then* I go to the dealerships to test drive, to make sure I personally like what I've read about. So, by the time I get to a dealership to actually start the shopping process, I'm sure I'm already quite interested in a couple/three certain makes & models, right down to which options I do or don't want.

Cathy

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Cathy F.

I don't really trust test-runs. I do my shopping for big-ticket items by seeking out those who own the products first. By the time I walk into the store/dealership, I already have a pretty good idea of what I want.

From there, I test drive to get the feel of the car, but the parameters are already in mind.

I should mention that despite my gender, I absolutely *hate* hands-on shopping. I'm a researching type.

Natalie

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Wickeddoll

They've already outsold GM:

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You're conversing with a resident troll, BTW.

Natalie

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Wickeddoll

Yeah Gordon, GM is poised for the big comeback in the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th quarter, once they sell off a few more parts of their business and turn over more rental sales to non-slug makes.

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Roadrunner NG

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