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Gasoline - Premium vs. Regular

I know this is old stuff, but I would like some input (hopefully informed) on current thinking, now that gas prices have skyrocketed and there is a real financial significance that just didn't exist "in the olden days". Here in British Columbia, Canada we are paying $1.17/litre in $Cdn or 1.17 x

3.785 (l. / U.S. gal) x .86/1=$3.80 U.S. / U.S. gallon.....and that's for regular. Let's look at about $4.10+ U.S. / U.S. gallon. The book for my car 2001 V70xc recommends a minimum octane (RON) of 91, and I see regulars at 87 and mid-range at 89. I listen to Radio Station KGO (San Francisco) at night and often hear their science Guru Bill Wattenberg (PhD etc. etc. knows all, et al) who says, "If it will run on regular, use regular. A modern sophisticated car engine may not run initially that well, but sensors will "re-tune" to the lower octane and will be fine.....no damage.....no power loss.....no effect on warranty. The theory, as I understand it is that "higher octane" doesn't mean more "power" in the gas, it means elements added to adjust combustion rate. In his opinion higher octanes are "generally speaking" a scam on automobile users perpetrated by the oil companies and encouraged by the auto manufacturers.

What's the consensus?

Gerry

'70 244 (A green one, surprise!) '90 244GL '01 V70xc

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gerry
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Almost forgot, I used to own an '86 760GL. Has anyone heard from "Blurp" recently, he took the car over and I know gave it some TLC for some time. I haven't seen any posts lately and I wondered how my old "beauty" was faring.

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gerry

I have an 01 S-40 & 01 S-60 both of which call for premium gas. They both run fine on mid-range BUT gas milage suffers. When I ran some milage tests - alternating premium with mid-range and computing the price differential, premium gas was only a few cents more than mid-range.

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Rob

We have an '05 XC90 V8, and when we bought we asked the dealer the question. He said they run all the cars on 87 octane --- that they adjust and tune for the fuel with no problem. We've only run the car on regular (87) and it works fine, and highway mileage is around 24mpg, no problem at all with power. Our daughter runs her '00 S70 T5 on regular with no problems and plenty of power --- and that car gets around 30mpg highway.

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mdrawson

Be sure to remember that the difference between fuel grades has at least here in the USA remained at a fairly constant $00.10 per gallon. So when Super gasoline reaches $3.50 and regular is $3.30 you will be saving only $00.20 per gallon and likely reducing the mpg at the same time.

If a high compression engine requires high octane fuel to function properly and deliver full power and maximize fuel economy then I do not see how that fuel requirement could be considered a scam.

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Roadie

I can only tell you my experience with several cars, now a

2000 S40. I normally use regular, though the manual calls for a slightly higher octane. Occasionally, I notice that the car is peppier after I refill the tank, which is probably because the refinery had a surplus of the higher grade and sold it as regular - which is legal. A don't see any change in mileage at those times, and I'm satisfied with the car's performance with regular gas. The computer in the car adjust the engine for differences in the gas, and that does reduce the difference in performance. But I've had similar experience with cars that weren't controlled by a computer. Back in the '60s, I carpooled with a colleague who put regular gas in his car, and ignored the engine's knocking. I wouldn't do that.
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Marvin

This car should run on regular - IF the knock sensor is working properly. The B-230F engine seems happier on mid-grade, but if it accepts regular, use it, unless you have to climb serious hills or haul a lot of weight. In that case you'd get better economy with midgrade.

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mjc1

Over here in the northwest it's more like 30 cents difference between regular and premium. Last time I filled the three grades were $2.98, $3.17, and $3.30.

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James Sweet

Strange how the price spread differs from region to region, but it sure does. I think the question of whether one can really make much of a dent in the overall cost of operating a car designed to run on premium by switching to regular is not well thought through by many drivers.

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Roadie

I have both a 1998 V70XC and a 1993 940 (B230F engine). With the V70 there is no noticeable difference when switching from regular to premium, except mileage. If I have premium in I can get 1-2 MPG higher. However, with the 940 it's just the opposite -- there is a noticeable increase in power but no change in mileage.

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Robert

2001 V70 - I did the tests, you can too. I discovered that using Premium vs. Regular gave me about a 12% boost in fuel economy. A little arithmetic will show you the break-even point in fuel price beyond which you can justify the additional expense.

But then, I have my headlamps on all the time. Besides making me look stupid, that reduces MPG by an additional .002... (Yes, I tested that too)

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