I have a 2000 3.2TL with a sportshift feature I have hardly used since
I first bought the car nearly 5 years back. A friend drove my car in
sportshift mode, thinking it was in auto mode, for a two and a half
hour trip including lots of freeway driving and some start and stopping
without making any shifts. I'm afraid to ask this, but would the
transmission in sportshift know to shift anyway at high revs?
Thx, I think.
On 8/15/05 1:39 PM, in article Xns96B37698B8D5Blarrythefrog@184.108.40.206,
On the 2000 TL, the car will shift through 1 into 2 and stay there if you
put it into sport shift mode and don't ever shift. It will not upshift from
2. It will stay in 2 all the way to the redline and the RPM limiter will
prevent it from going beyond that. Whenever you stop, it downshifts back to
Highway speeds in 2 will not run it up to the redline, though it will come
pretty close. I'll bet you got really crappy mileage on that tank...
Thanks for the response. I did not notice the mileage being especially
crappy but did not pay attention when filling up afterwards. More
importantly, did that do any harm to the engine running with such high
revs for so long?
On 8/16/05 6:38 AM, in article
Probably no damage. The engine keeps itself in its normal operating range
(i.e. below redline), The transmission is not doing any shifting, so there
should be no undo wear on the clutches etc.
If 2nd gear was not previously well broken in, it is now. Did you have the
recall done that added the oil jet to cool 2nd gear?
About 140 miles, 120 of which were at highway speeds.
Yes I did a while back. Interestingly, the car went in to the dealer
for a scheduled 60,000+ mile check up at the end of that trip. Nothing
out of the ordinary showed up in their tests, but extra wear and tear
won't show up in the diagnostics I'm sure.
Does engine power level off when rpm hits red line? Obviously it did
not shut down.
miles in >2nd gear? Ouch! How could anyone drive long in 2nd gear with the
engine screaming >and NOT think that something was wrong?
OK, new piece of information after talking to the driver. Somewhere
between 60 and 70 mph, the display "2" flashed and it changed to "3" by
itself - again, without upshifting while in sportshift mode. Could the
leveling off before redline have caused this automatic upshift?
- Still puzzled, but a little less so.
On 8/16/05 1:49 PM, in article
I'm pretty sure mine won't do that, though I really haven't held it at
redline for any length of time to make that test.. Maybe she bumped the
Its not as hard to do this as you might think. The car is really pretty
quiet with the engine running at high RPM.
I have accidentally done it myself a couple times in the 5 years I've had
the car. All it takes is some traffic disruption that forces it to
downshift, coupled with a distraction of some sort that causes you to forget
it was in sport shift mode and off you go in second. What has jogged me to
look at it both times was the unexpectedly strong engine braking when you
let up on it. There was not enough noise to get my attention with the
windows up and the radio off.
I think I used to do that a few times myself before I lost interest in
using the Sportshift.
Who said she was a "she"? LOL. Actually, the striking clue was the
flashing "2" before it changed to "3" so I doubt that the shifter was
bumped. Methinks some logic in the engine computer "burped" to relieve
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