For those of you who have purchased the new TL I'd like to hear why you
chose this car over the other vehicles in it's class like the Infinity, MB,
BM|W, Lexus, etc.
Also, how is the front drivers room? Unfortunately we don't have a local
Acura dealer so I'm going to have to take a drive to check one out. I'm in
the market for an entry level luxury sedan or coupe. Our kids are grown and
this will just be my toy. However, I'm 5' 10" and weigh 240lbs and some of
the sportier models seem a bit cramped to me, but I'm not really in the
market for a big car, but rather something sporty and fun.
All nice cars .... the new 3 series is real nice. I test drove the
TL, G35X, 330xi, and A4 Quattro and decided for my needs, the A4
But, I knew when I purchased it, long term reliability isn't what the
TL or G35 would be...but the fun to drive factor is nice. The new
2.0T is pretty nice also.
Why do you say long term reliability isn't what the TL or G35 would be? I
thought reliability was one of their strong points? Also, I owned a 2002 VW
Passat with the 1.8T motor and triptonic A/T (son has it now) which is
essentially an A-4 underneath the shell. Same motor, frame, etc. It was/is
a great car, but having already owned the VW I'm looking for something a
little different to try.
If you read around Consumer Reports, JD Power or Edmunds, it is pretty
clear the A4 isn't up to par with the TL or G35 (long-term) ... and I
own an A4!
My experience (luckily) hasn't reflected that: I have 60,000 miles on
my 2001 and beside (early on) an annoying wind noise (fixed under
warranty), and the ECT sensor going bad, I have done nothing but oil
changes. But, I think beyond 100,000 miles, the TL and/or G35 will
win the reliability factor.
I agree with the others, I didn't care for the G35 interior and I
didn't fit very well in the BMW..
For me the TL didn't cut it because I wanted all-wheel drive (we live
in Colorado) and I couldn't afford the RL.
I have a 2004 TL. Here's why I didn't choose the following
(remember, this is just my opinion):
Lexus - Very nice cars but not as sporty as the TL I wanted the
sportiness and handling.
Infinity - The G35 interior was it's downfal. I just don't like
BMW - for a similarily equiped 3-class, i'd have to spend up to
as much as $8K more. Not worth it to me.
Audi - I looked at the A4 but the reliability information I found
was an issue
I'm 5' 9". Not big but it doesn't seem cramped to me.
I love this car. Good luck!
After driving BMW 5 series cars for nine years, I also got an 04
IMO, it's a better car than the 530i we had last. The TL doesn't
handle quite as well as the rear-drive BMW, but it's quicker and
has the BMW beat hands down in interior comfort, style and
It's also about $15,000 less. I wouldn't compare it to the BMW
545, but that car, equally equipped, is nearly twice the TL's
Same here on those two cars, particularly the G35, which looks
overstyled to me.
I've had three 5's, never wanted a 3.
Same here. Poor reliability reports across the entire Audi line.
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We pretty much agree then. I wouldn't have considered the '04
RL, but the '05 looks much nicer. When it's time to trade in my
TL, I'm going to look at the RL too. I have my doubts about the
sportiness, but I at least need to give it a try. Not sure it's
worth the extra $15K either.
Although it's a bit less than the cars in the class we've been
discussing, at $32K, it's certainly not anywhere near half the
price of any of them. Also, although it's certainly a matter of
opinion, I don't think it's in the same class as the rest of the
vehicles we're discussing. It's certainly very fast and sporty.
But it's not a luxury or near luxury car.
I think you guys are being snobs. Go check one out! 300hp and one of the
best awd systems out there. Plus Subaru was rated number one for reliability
for 2004, 2005 by Consumer Reports. The Forester XT would out perform some
of the cars your discussing never mind the STi.
If a job's worth doin' it's worth doing twice!
"Lee Florack" < firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote in message
The TL is not the most sporty Acura, but is more luxurious. You asked
about the legroom. I am 6'2" and 245 lbs. I drove the TL and it had
plenty of leg room and was quite comfortable. Reliability would also
be excellent for any Acura vehicle.
Posted by the Rubber Dino.
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