I am looking at purchasing a new Dodge Vehicle. A friend of mine says
he can get me a "A Program" code to give to the dealer when I am
purchasing the vehicle. He says this will get me a huge discount. Any
idea what this is?
Also the dealers claim to show you "what they paid for the car", yet
when visiting a different dealer they show a lower sale price, and
claim they paid even less. I cannot believe that dealers are paying
dodge different amounts for the same car.
I am looking at a 2007 Durango 4X4 or AWD limited with the Hemi and
most of the options. What is this REALLY costing the dealer? I have
seen prices from $38,000 to $42,000 at various dealers.
I know this will seem anti Dodge but all new Dodge 4x4's have no
abilty to disconnect front axles in 2wd so front differentail and
drive shaft is ALWAYS turning which adds to wear and slight loss of
MPG too (especailly in cold weather) Dodge/Chysler is the only detriot
maker that does this too to save a few bucks per vehicle. Even in the
front IFS they used a differentail by AAM that was designed for the
use in the rear of a small SUV and has no provisions to disconnect
rather then chossing one of the several other diffs that AAM has on
the shelve that do support disconnecting. ALso when they switched to
the AAM axle in the front of HD pickups in 03, Dodge spec'ed it to
have no disconnect and bastard bearing hubs that will not support the
addition of lockout hubs without a expensive aftermarket kit (about 2
grand) to change it to what dodge could have done at time of design
for about 100 bucks. So let the masses attack me on this but I am just
telling you like it is and there is NO excause to make a 4x4 today
with todays energy prices to not try to make it as fuel efficent as
possible and always dragging the front diff and drive shaft even in
2wd is not a wise design to meet this goal and it will cost a lot of
money in extra fuel over life of vehicle. (make no mistake there is a
MPG penilty that will increase as tempature drops) The sad part is
that Dodge could fix this easily but rather they do not and keep you
in the dark about its design limitations and hope to woe you with
whistles and bells and that you never look deeply under the hood.
There is no plausable excause for this other than to save them some
coin on the cost of building them at the consumers long term expense.
Just curious, are you saying that if your doing 100MPH, and you notice
your about to drive off the edge of the road and go flying into a
large mud-pit, you can quickly shift into 4 wheel drive without
stopping and enter the mud pit with all 4 wheels enganged, or are you
saying you can pull over to the side of the road, engage 4 wheel
drive, then take off at up to 100MPH? Not to mention, if your going to
be constantly loosing gas mileage anyway, why not just leave the
sucker in 4 wheel drive all the time?
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why not just leave the
one I'd bet your really not loosing that much, two if your doing 100 you
don't NEED 4wd. but yes that's the general principle. in my Liberty its
shift on the fly up to 50mph I think (don't quote me I didn't verify that
number but I think its close) the problem with leaving a truck in 4wd on a
hard surface is that most transfer cases don't have a diff action in them,
meaning that when you turn the truck the rear axle takes a shorter track
than the front. this causes a drive line wind up effect loading the transfer
case. in the case of my liberty, I could leave it in 4wd if I wanted as it
has a "full time" setting witch allows the transfer case to deal with the
windup. but at the same time the owners manual specifically states not to
use either of the "part time" settings (4Low or 4High) when on a hard
surface, but instead to only use the Full time 4wd or 2wd settings (we just
leave her in 2wd) when on a hard surface.
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