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In news:2DuWa.41752$Ho3.6694@sccrnsc03, Brent P jubilantly posted:
The interesting part is how we will migrate away from "gasoline" to low pressure liquid hydrogen over the next 15 years. Yup... according to processes already in place at Air Products.
Philip® opined in news:YcvWa.1570$ snipped-for-privacy@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net:
Dont bet on it...
A. do a search on the subject and check out the downside issues.
Best is the one from a gas station that sells lots of gas. Worst is from a station that sells very little gas.
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"Philip®" wrote:
Low pressure liquid hydrogen? Yeah, sure.
This is only my personal observation:
Worst - Texaco, any grade. Every fuel related problem I've ever had in a gas vehicle has always been preceeded by a tankful of Texaco gasoline. And it doesn't ever seem to matter what grade I put it or what station I've gotten it from. After fuel issues with three seperate vehicles over the years from Texaco gas (two pickups and my Harley), if I ran out of gas in the parking lot of one of their stations I would hitchhike to almost any other place before I bought more fuel there. Honestly, I won't even use it in my lawnmower.
Best - Don't really care anymore, I drive a diesel!
Cheers - Jonathan
Cryogenic LIQUID H2? Not likely.
Best Regular: $1.28 gal Worst REgular: $1.79 gal Best Premium: $1.69 gal Worst Premium: $2.15 gal Other than that, they are all the same.
Matthew Russotto opined
I hear it's a new molecule... with two hydrogen atoms bonded to an oxygen atom...
Self contained fuel and oxidizer
Keep studying. Not the cryrogenic grade.
Considering that the boiling point is -423F @ 1 atm and the =
critical point of H2 is -399.93F @ 190.8 psia, how can it be anything else?
I am interested in the subject and if you can give me a reference or two concerning non-cryo LH2, I really will read them. Paul.
What I am reading from is the current "Air Products and Chemicals, Inc" newsletter
While I have the printed article here, their website starts off this week month with the same article "New Hydrogen Fueling Station."
Best gasoline .. . the station that has the newest underground tanks! All tanks collect sludge, water and oxidation; which is why they have to be periodically dug up and replaced (E.P.A. regulations). Hydrogen or "fuel cell" technology suffers from unsolved problems: 1) non-migrating tank designs needed; 2) distribution stations and 3) power needed to separate hydrogen from water etc. (e.g. "fusion" power). My guess, hydrogen power is 30 years off at best. Most of the "Air" about fuel cell technology is just that .. .
"Paºul" wrote in message news: snipped-for-privacy@texxxas.net...
Ok Bill, read and weep:
Best regular: $1.26 Worst regular: $1.40 Best premium: $1.39 Worst premium: $1.60
Down here in Texas.
In news: snipped-for-privacy@posting.google.com, Neo jubilantly posted:
During the course of automotive history, there have been LOTS AND LOTS of ideas that failed simply because the metalurgy was so lagging or perhaps computer input was necessary to make the idea work well. So, give me a break. BTW, I am looking at an article from Air Products and Chemicals about a Chevy El Camino powered with hydrogen back in 1967. Fast forwarding to today, there are fleets of busses running hydrogen here in California.
Wankel engines from GM ... no. Wankel engines from MAZDA, yes and *hell yes! Ceramic engines are with us now ... in case you have been living under a bridge. Porche, Mercedes, and others have "ceramic engines" but perhaps the definition of "ceramic" needs to be clarified. I do not recall "Comprex."
You need to get involved with government social programs for *real* wasted money on a HUGE scale.
I read it. The distribution is all gaseous, not liquid.
Why? They are doing quite well with making it from natural gas or methane.
Marc For email, remove the first "y" of "whineryy"
You mean the Renesis (sp?) engine in the new Mazda RX-8?
Vuarra
Quid quid latine dictum sit altum videtur. (That which is said in Latin sounds profound.)
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