Can you please show us the commerce web site that shows the content of
the various vehicles? I am not trying to be a wise-guy. I know the Ford
F-150 has one of the highest domestic contents (there are different ways
to measure domestic content, and the F-150 might not be the highest on
all measures). I would be interested in seeing the list.
Ford Escapes/Mazda Tributes have a platform developed from the Mazda
626. The engine used in the Mazda6 (which is assembled in Dearborn) was
developed by Mazda, but is made in the US. The Mustang V6 is made in
Interestingly, the Ford Ranger that is made for sale outside North
America is a different vehicle that is a rebadged Mazda.
Why do Toyota and Honda import all those parts, but it is impractical
for Mazda and Ford to do that?
Last year, over 35% of Mazdas that were sold in the US were made in the US.
The Mazda 6 is still built at the Flat Rock plant.
The point is why then are the Toyota loyalist complaining about domestics
building cars in China, for sale in China? Both GM and Ford make 80% or
more of the vehicles they sell in the US, in north America, of primarly
American materials. On the other hand Toyota imports more than half of the
vehicles they sell and most of the materials for the parts they assemble in
the US. The Commerace Department says less than 30% of the matersil used in
their vehicles assembled in the US are sourced here
Why don't you ask the people who complaining that Ford and GM are
building cars in China for sale in China why they are complaining?
My guess is that they don't understand that the cars are for sale in China.
However, Toyota has plants that make Engines, Body Parts, Transmissions,
etc., and the vast majority of the parts for cars and trucks they build
in North America are made in North America. Something like $28B worth of
parts and supplies are bought by Toyota each year from US suppliers.
Overall something like 50% of the parts in their cars and trucks come
from North America.
My point was that I continue to buy Ford under the 'false' knowledge that
Ford is still 99% North American (from R&D to road). I've since found out
that isn't anywhere near the case with only bodies being assembled here.
Since I'm not really supporting NA's citizens by buying Ford, I may as well
go for the Honda Civic next. If American manufacturers can't support
American people why should my purchases still be based on the false prophecy
that buying Ford is supporting Americans? It isn't anymore than buying Honda
is. Gosh I'm an angry NA consumer...
Honda Civic next, though the Taurus (97, probably on last leg) and Focus
(03, should last a few more years if it doesn't catch fire again) will have
to drop dead first. By that time Honda Civic may not be the best value for
the dollar especially since hybrids are getting somewhat cheaper, and should
be more economical as the years pass. More affordable 'Smart cars' should be
available too in the next few years. Right now (imo) Smart Car is too
expensive for what they are.
Where is your source(s) that make you so certain that Ford still makes parts
in North America? Mechanics indicate quite the opposite, stating only some
body parts are manufactured in NA, some shipped in (most of the light covers
and casings) and assembled here.
Next time you're in a dealership, look at the US/Canada content
stickers. They show what proportion of the average model of that car is
made in the US. Of course, that particular car may differ. But you will
see for the majority of Ford models, around 75 or 80% of the content
comes from the US.
Sorry, but I don't know your mechanics or where they get their information.
Here is a list of Ford Factories:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ford_factories . Or here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Ford_factories . You will notice
that there are factories for all the parts in a car or truck in the US
However, the reality is that Ford, Boeing, GM, Toyota, Honda, Renault
and Mercedes Benz are all international companies. They have factories
in many different countries. People in a country would rather by a car
if the car company makes cars in that country, even if they don't make
that model there. Same thing with airplane. It's also often cheaper for
an auto company to make a car relatively close to where it's sold rather
than 1/2 way around the world.
Even so, Ford makes around 75-80% of the parts in the cars and trucks
they sell in the US.
Unless you are able to show that you have a clue what you're talking
about, I won't waste my time with you anymore in this thread.
I think it is you that needs to provide proof of your claims. I only need to
go out to the driveway and look at both the Focus and Taurus engine parts to
know you are wrong.
I've asked you before, and I'll ask again. Show me the sources you use that
give validity to your claims, especially those showing that 75-80% of parts
in Ford cards and trucks are made in the US/Canada plants. I happen to know
you are full of it, but willing to read your sources of info.
PS: I simple call to Ford proved you wrong.
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