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Things are not looking good, and IMHO that applies to American industry in general. So to you CEO's and major stockholders, keep offshoring jobs, losing
control of our bread an butter industries (the ones that built America) and hopefully you'll enjoy your golden parachutes.
This country is in serious trouble........
I'll bet many of you don't even realize IBM sold the majority of it's PC division to a Chinese company called Lenovo. The CEO etc are squealing with delight, while American workers are being put out of work. BTW the FBI is invstigating this because of possible espionage. Did you realize that parts of the latest fighter jet are actually being made in China?
Like I said, we are in serious trouble.
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YES, by 2008. This isn't really news as GM is always looking to 'slash; jobs.
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Interesting that GM would make a press release on the topic if it weren't news. Hint, it IS news (by definition) since is in the press everywhere. Most analysts though believe that a majority of these numbers will come from normal attrition.

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Well anything concerning GM is news but OTOH any time jobs are cut through attrition it's not really news just jabber talk. Heck I was one of those whose job was lost to attrition and proud of it.
11,315 days with GM was enough. Now I do what I want. NOYK in Central Florida
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On 7 Jun 2005 17:01:01 -0700, "No One You Know"

Same here - check the sig.
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Fourteen thousand six hundred and forty seven days ??
If I divide that out by a worst-case number;
14,647 days (divided by) 240 work-days in a year = 61 years !
If you had started at age 16, .... you worked 'til age 76 ???
Maybe you'd better check your time sheets..... <rj>
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40.1 calendar years. Might as well count them all - even on weekends you realize you've got to go back to work Monday. Plus, 6 and 7 day weeks were common for skilled trades.
Now enjoying the never-ending weekend.
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Thats right Dave, I had 31 years as a Millwright and 6-7 days a week was very common. I hired in at 18 and retired at 49. Sounds good to me and would do it again. You worked in Flint I think and I worked at Powertrain Bay City but started out at Malleable Iron Foundry in Saginaw. If I had stayed at the foundry I could have retired at 43(25 and out for foundry workers).
NOYK in Florida 11,315 days at GM and proud to be UAW retired
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Flint is right. I worked in the Buick Foundry until it closed in 1980. We converted the plant to making torque converters. They still make 245mm and 265mm converters, and pistons for the new inline 6.
Back when GM had distinctive brands, Buick made everything but frames and bodies on-site. Bodies were built at Fisher and trucked across town. Frames were built on the South side of town & trucked in. Engines, transmissions, brackets & small stampings, etc., were all made at Buick. Engineering and division headquarters were on-site. Everything.
Now, Buick is just a name on a car that looks like a lot of other cars.
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On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:51:25 -0400, David Starr

I remember that.
The Impalas and BelAirs our family had that really nice metal insert on the top of the rocker panel "Body by Fisher".
Those were the days.
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Dana wrote:

At the annual meeting Evelyn Y. Davis told Lutz he "better get with it" and was maybe "too old for the job." GM has been a day late and a dollar short for decades. Wallstreet finally twisted their arms until they were forced to honor the fact that they ain't selling 30% of the cars no more no more. So they are acting to cut the capacity down somewhat. But by the time they cut the capacity down to 25%, they may no longer have 21% market share and could still be over capacity. Lutz is just dying to get his new SUV's out there. That will save them. And how come Wagoner never seems to take any heat for the portion of the demise under his watch? PS. I was not sure whether to laugh or cry when I bought some aviation cable Saturday. The spool said, "Not for use on aviation controls." MADE IN CHINA.
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On Tue, 07 Jun 2005 16:27:54 -0400, Dana

All of the checks and balances have already been done.
The DOJ and all of the other "big brother" agencies gave their blessings for the Lenovo sale.
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Dana wrote:

Nah. GM is bloated. Pontiac, Chevrolet, Buick, GM, GMC, Cadillac, Daewoo, Saab...
They own so many brands and logos with so much overlap that they could chop 1/3 of their entire line and nobody would really notice.
And 1/3 is about what they are in the hole. So getting leaner is exactly what they need to do to survive.
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Joseph Oberlander wrote:

Next time there is an opening on the GM board I'll nominate you.
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Why is it Ok for consumers to go off shore and not OK for the manufactures to do likewise? As long as American consumers choose to buy imported products, to save a few dollars, corporation will need to go off shore as well to save money. If you want jobs to remain in the US, buy products made in the US, WBMA. The loss of jobs in the US lies solely with the consumer and their greed. If consumers did not buy imports, stores would not stock imports.
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Most of the time there is no choice. It seems like every thing is made in China. The low prices of Chinese goods are the only thing that are keeping inflation down and many families from going into poverty. The Chinese money is undervalued compared to the dollar. there is a push to correct that. When that happens- no more cheap products and this country will be in trouble. Add to that the fact that Chinese workers are demanding better wages.

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Look at the label if it is not made in the US, don't buy it period, if you expect there to be manufacturing jobs in the US for your children and grand children. That is what I do.
When it comes to vehicles, look at the VIN and the content label. If is actually made in the US of mostly American parts it will start with the number '1' and the content will be at least 75% American parts. Personally I prefer the vehicles made in the US by an American, federal tax paying corporation, like GM or Ford with a number '1.'
People are free to spend there money where they wish but I will not even consider a vehicle that is only assembled in the US, of mostly foreign parts, by a foreign corporation that pays no US federal corporate income taxes like a Camry which costs far more to drive home than its domestic competitors vehicles of similarly size and with similarly equipment
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snipped-for-privacy@mailcity.com wrote:

Its getting hard to find American made items. Even going to the hardware store and buying raw materials, lumber, screws and such they are all made in China or the lumber is imported from somewhere. Now companies such as Toyota can assemble things here and call is made in America so you can't even go by the label.
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On a recent recall of my 02 chevy silverado, I had new cables installed on my tailgate....when I looked at them and observed a white tag on them..they said 'Made in china'
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that is probably true, but the majority of parts are made in the US. That is better than a Tundra where most of the parts are made in China and ALL of the profit go to Japan. Use you head shop smartly, the Japanese do. They buy products mad in Japan whoever possible
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