GM Still Sells 1 out 4 of all Cars sold in the US

If that is what you believe you need to look in the shop at one of their dealers and see all the cars with their engines or trannys removed. ;)

mike hunt

Ummm, Saab was pretty much always a POS. I wouldn't blame the General.

I only owned one of them. It was quite a good car.

Pricing is certainly an issue.

But the question was, why did GM fail to address long runs of parts and systems of known faulty quality?

They knowingly let this plenum issue rock on for close to 10 years without improving the breed. And it really didn't take a lot to 'fix' that shortcoming.

And as you well know, this is not the only instance of this sort of thing.

If problems like this had been engineering problems only, GM has the engineering skills to fix and stop them. If it is an attitude problem, then it needs to be addressed while credibility can still be saved. If it is that GM intentionally leaves a few Easter eggs for the dealership garages, it is quite another thing.

You premise that GM did nothing to fix past problems is not factual, just your opinion. I'll not dispute your opinion, you are entitled to that, but differing facts speaks for themselves.

mike hunt

They may speak for themselves, Mike, but they speak very slowly and with a lisp.

Like I said I'll not dispute your opinion, you are entitled to that. ;)

mike hunt

The cars GM sold ten years ago is what makes for todays badwill Todays cars are overpriced to pay for old mistakes

I loved the Old American cars up until the mid 70's. Lets face it American PEOPLE have always been overated as well as the history of the country with all the corruption and stealing anf hatred. Though many refuse to face the truth about that. Some just take it out on the car companies.

Who the hell bought/buys a Saab anyway, other than someone who needs a place to mount their Ski rack?

Did it come with the Ski rack or did you buy your own?

America has made some really good and affordable cars in large numbers.

But sometimes we do brag of our engineering and our quality when it is not warranted. (Even the British still boast of their engineering expertise.)

Management has sometimes lapsed into a mentality of producing something they believe to be 'good enough', rather than of exceptional quality.

Capitalism as practiced for years in the USA created jobs and wealth by strong competition. Strong competition, eventually, can lead to fear, greed, and corruption even at highly affluent management levels, not to mention in the band of 37,000,000 people who are defined to be living below the poverty level.

Attitudes have changed here over the decades, and some not for the good.

I had to buy my own ski rack;>)

Seriously, I never had any problems with the car, and it was sold further to a company employee who drove it for a long time. (It did NOT have an automatic tranny. I avoid those whenever I can.)

Does that mean the junky rust buckets the Jap and Koreans sold in the US for up to twenty years will effect what they sell today? ;)

mike hunt

What America do you live in? The vehicles that the domestics sell TODAY are as good or better than any import you can buy for around the same amount of money, period That is why the domestics sell MORE vehicles today than any import.

The proof is in the pudding as they say And the proof of what buyer think are the best vehicles is in the annual sales figures and the fact is more Americans buy more domestic brand vehicles than all of the twenty some import brands combined. The best selling import company is Toyota and they are a distant forth place, millions of vehicles behind number one and two GM and Ford ;)

mike hunt

Perhaps in your opinion but million of people from around the world, have and still are, literally dying to get to the USA. In what other county in the world are doing that? Every other county in the word is jumping head over tail to do business in the USA as well. Teh only problem we have today is too many American do not have the guts or the since to fight for and support their owe county

mike hunt

Reminds me of my first Toyota ;)

mike hunt

Yeah, and Budweiser is the best beer sold in the U.S. because it outsells everybody else.

Give it a rest, Mike. A lot of factors go into how many cars are sold (like incentives, proximity of dealer, number of dealers, etc.) and not just construction quality.

Actually, everybody in the world is jumping up and down to do business in China and India. Those are the places where GM makes money, for example, and they hold China, in particular, as their potential salvation.