Quiz: Which car is built in America?

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The fact is that YOUR information is not there. If I am wrong, just post the URL.
I won't reply to your stupidity on this thread again, unless you can
back your claim. You don't know what you're talking about. LOL

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A URL that shows that your claimed "law" doesn't exist, ya, right

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Mike Hunter wrote:

He did. You lose. Again.
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Mike Hunter wrote:

What is the URL of the Commerce Department site that lists domestic parts used in cars?
The funny thing is that the law requires content to be reported to the National Traffic and Highway Safety Administration, who reports that the Mazda Tribute is 90% made in the US. And the Toyota Tundra has more US components that the Chevy Malibu. For some reason, Ford, Lincoln and Mercury vehicles are not reported.
http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/portal/site/nhtsa/template.MAXIMIZE/menuitem.e649cd1b2b018c71d8eca01046108a0c/?javax.portlet.tpstD27b997caacf504a8bdba101891ef9a_ws_MX&javax.portlet.prp_4427b997caacf504a8bdba101891ef9a_viewID ήtail_view&itemIDS9ed5c474a5a110VgnVCM1000002fd17898RCRD&viewType=standard&detailViewURL=/portal/site/nhtsa/template.MAXIMIZE/menuitem.e649cd1b2b018c71d8eca01046108a0c/?javax.portlet.tpstD27b997caacf504a8bdba101891ef9a_ws_MX

And, what vehicle is made from only US parts and without any "world sourced parts"?
BTW, the Toyota has the highest domestic (US and Canada) content of any car listed. So much for your world sourced parts garbage.
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The parts content label lists parts that have the their final assembly completed in the US or Canada, regardless of the source of the materials or the components of the assembled parts.
Even a Camry made totally in Japan, will displays a parts label listing "AX" number of North American parts, when obviously the total is ZERO. I.E. Parts stampings that are made of imported Japanese steel will be listed as NA parts. Transmissions made in Japan, that have their final assembly in Canada will be listed as NA parts. One of the six speed tyrannies, that Ford buys from Asian, a Japanese company, is listed on the parts label as made in Japan. The same tyranny, made by the Japanese company that has it final assembly in Canada is listed as a NA part on a Toyota.
The find were the MATERIALS and parts are actually made, one must search the US Department of Commerce site. If you do you will discover the vast majority of MATERIALS and parts use by GM and Ford, around 80% to 85% are sourced in the US, even on the vehicles they assemble in Canada and Mexico.
Although no auto manufacture selling vehicles in the US today is currently earning a profit, when they do the American corporations will pay federal corporate income taxes. The Japanese corporations, because of corporate tax credits in Japan, will not pay a penny in US federal corporate income taxes, as has been the case ever since they started selling vehicles in the US. In addition the Japanese government will return that money to those corporations for R&D, under the Japanese Capital Reinvest law, as it has ever since WWII.

http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/portal/site/nhtsa/template.MAXIMIZE/menuitem.e649cd1b2b018c71d8eca01046108a0c/?javax.portlet.tpstD27b997caacf504a8bdba101891ef9a_ws_MX&javax.portlet.prp_4427b997caacf504a8bdba101891ef9a_viewID ήtail_view&itemIDS9ed5c474a5a110VgnVCM1000002fd17898RCRD&viewType=standard&detailViewURL=/portal/site/nhtsa/template.MAXIMIZE/menuitem.e649cd1b2b018c71d8eca01046108a0c/?javax.portlet.tpstD27b997caacf504a8bdba101891ef9a_ws_MX
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Mike Hunter wrote:

That's because the manufacturer estimates the content for all cars in a particular model together, including cars made in NA and Japan.

What US Department of Commerce site? You can't provide the URL because there isn't one.

Then why does the content labels usually say much less? Only two GM vehicles are listed as having more than 75% US content. So the average is less. US makers have a higher domestic parts content percentage than the Japanese. But the US content is not 80 to 85% for GM and Ford.

Honda is: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/29/business/global/29honda.html

But their subsidies do pay US corporate tax.

Really? Evidence, please.
You know, you really crack me up! You talk about things like you know what you're saying, when you don't have a clue.
Jeff

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That is true but it give the impression to the uninformed that ALL Camry's have that percentage of NA parts, which is false. Only some have parts that have their finally assembly completed in the US or Canada

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On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 12:33:42 -0400, "Mike Hunter"

Virtually all sold in Canada and the USA.

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On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 12:33:42 -0400, "Mike Hunter"

According to the latest statistics something like 47% of American housholds pay NO FEDERAL INCOME TAX.
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Actually in 2008 is was closer to 49%, primary a result of the tax RATE cuts enacted under President Bush. The bottom rate was reduced for 15% down to 10%, a 331/3% reduction in the taxes paid by the working poor on their total adjusted income.
In addition exemptions for the working poor were increased making it possible for those American to receive the return of every dollar that was withheld during the year.
The poorest of the poor now get a tax refund GREATER than the amount they had withheld. In some cases as much as 50% more than withheld
The Dims of course said the tax cuts went to the "rich," but they had the lowest RATE reduction of all, 3%.

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Mike Hunter wrote:

You will be bitching about Bush for 50 years, no need for me to say more.

Yep, working poor to bailout GM. People could have been left with a lot more money if they just let GM die.

Why? Why not a flat rate. Too fair? I guess you are poor and looking for a free lunch.

Yep, Dims don't know which way is up.
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Don't you even get anything right? What makes you believe I was bitching about Bush? He, like Presidents Kennedy and Reagan before him did the proper thing to help the economy, that was cut tax RATES to improve the cash flow that grew the economy, dummy.
It is the Dims that are spending trillions we do not have that can only hurt the economy for years to come.

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Mike Hunter wrote:

Is it that hard for you to admit reality?
We don't make much any more, too costly.
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Normally when one calculates the national content, the entire supply chain is included, and that would include most of the items you have mentioned.
"How much of the money stays in the USA" may be a bit sticky.
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If one searches the US Department of Commerce site one can find which auto manufacturer uses the most American sourced parts and materials, to build the vehicles they manufacture in the US. If you do you will see Toyota in not on top, in fact Honda used more American sourced parts and materials to build the vehicle they manufacture in the US than Toyota

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Mike Hunter wrote:

Including GM and Chrysler of course.
The myth of which country makes a car is anyones guess, and likely BS if they try to politically quantify it. My guess is no less than 10 countries are involved in *ANY* car made in North America today. Just a sampling:
Wire imported from the orient, as are the connectors, harnesses from Mexico. Nickel, steel and aluminium from god knows where refined outside of North America even if rolled in the US. Tires base material imported. Not likely much of any component in a vehicle is truly 100% US made.
In fact, if the US closed out all imports right down to screws and bolts, it would likey shut down auto production for years due to part and base material shortages. And certainly drive up the cost beyond any middle class affordability.
Made in America for auto dies 20+ years ago.
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But, but, but 100% was never part of the discussion, dummy. The discussion was which manufacturer use the most AMERICAN materials and parts. Rather than parts and materials from countries OUTSIDE of the US.

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Jim_Higgins wrote:

Amazing how they look at NAFTA countries as being foreign. But point well made. Parts are even worse as they could have been made anywhere.
But should get our "Japanese" haters straightened out a bit.
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