Key copied for pug 405 cheaper than dealer (remote built in)

Hi Greg,

I know a locksmith in Bolton Lancs that can do it but he will need to program the ECU to match the transponder code for the new key. My understanding is that the transponder in the original key can not be copied. I found this guy in the yellow pages, might be worth a try.

Regards Dave G

Greg wrote:

I don't think 405s use a transponder. My 95 model does not.

The problem will be the IR section of the remote and getting programmed to match the car. I think it is a straight choice between day's salary or use the mechanical key in the drivers door just like we always used to!

Bob

Sorry didn't realise it was a 405. I think I would use the mechanical method !

Bob M>> Hi Greg,

You could get the key cut at a locksmiths and the use this site if it is just the IR that needs programming

Hi,

Eeer, if it uses the old-type separate remote (from Neiman), it's based on the Philips TEA5500. The code is hard-coded thru voltage levels on E1-E10 inputs, a look at the PCB is fast & effective : both + and GND comes at the same time, the net is drilled to select voltage by cutting one (or both for Hi-Z) of them. In this case, just solder / cut similar tracks, check for R & C values (oscillator freq) and that should be all.

Regards,

-- G.T

205 Diesel & turbo-Diesel :

Thanks for the tips guys,

It isn't a seperate remote, the remote is built into the key and is the same as in most 106's and 306's. I don't know if it's possible somehow to 'recode' a 2nd hand key? It's the infa red type. I can't simply lock the door as the remote arms the alarm, locking the door doesn't. Plus I like things to work. A spare key that won't diarm the car isn't any good sadly ;-)

Greg.

G.T wrote:

The infra red key plip is easily programmed. Instructions are on this site:

Oh no it isn't.

At least I can't find any reference to 405 or IR programming. Please prove me wrong Bob

OP said "same as in most 106's and 306's" so this should be the correct instruction. Works fine for my wife's 306 with IR keys.

My keys I think are the later transponder type, they have one 'plastic' button in the IR fob, not the ones with 2 buttons with the rubber covers.

So I think the 106 method (N reg 106 had same key) may work:

"106 PLIP PROGRAMMING

1. Unlock the vehicle using the working key.

1. Press the LOCK button 2 times within 20 seconds."

My next question, now it seems keys can be programmed easily, is....

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Okay I have switched my brain on. First I found this, new blank key and transponder remote body for =A330:

Then I saw lots of 2nd hand keys for sale, as they don't fit the cars I figured you must be able to get blank key blades to fit into the housing - you can for a fiver:

So now I just find an old 405 key, may even have one, fit the new blade, and hope the 106 procedure programs it and I don't have any transponder trouble......

If anyone has programed a single button 1996 peugeot key before please feel free to comment!

Greg.

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Ah! I see - Thanks Keith.

Bob

I think you'll find that you can NOT programme 405 plips. You have to buy a key from a dealer and provide the dealer with the number that is printed on a small piece of paper in the original key or in the receiver unit in the roof console. 306 and 106 keys work on a different system.

Which makes me wonder why they sell so well on ebay for good money, if you can't program them?????