Ah great! I was wondering about that.. I dislike the fake coolness of
ACs and only use them when it's really hot but I prefer real fresh
outside air. I hadn't found out yet how to get the system to just
use the blowers without the AC..
In playing with this over the weekend, I determined on ECON
mode it still adheres to the temperature setting. So the
heater will kick in if needed. There doesn't seem to be an
absolute override to the whole system that lets you just let
fresh air IN THE VENTS, no question, which is what I want.
I am well aware that opening windows or the sunroof will let
fresh air in, but I want the windows shut when I listen to
music and/or am going 80mph.
On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 14:55:42 GMT, kylet@ s h o r e . n e t (Kyle Tucker)
Geesus, you'd think this was a fricken space shuttle launch...
First, the ECON button only disables the hvac compressor. So the interior
won't be able to get any *colder* than ambient, but yes, the heater core is
still in the loop, so if you set the temperature higher than ambient, the
system *will* warm the air.
Just like it was designed to do.
If you want Just Plain Air (tm) then enable ECON mode and set the interior
temperature at or below the exterior temperature.
With these settings the system won't add heat, and it can't "add cool".
And for some reason I feel compelled to add: the exterior temperature can be
found in the middle of your info system display, and the interior temperature
is set in degrees...
'00 s4 6spd
I've always been comfortable using the thermostat around 68-73F. I get
plenty of fresh air. Sure, it might heat it up a little if it's 50F
outside, but this has never bothered me. I can't imagine needing it set
colder than 63F.
As I remember, there have only been two occasions on
which space shuttles have managed to get fresh air into
their crew, and these were not especially happy occasions . . .
To the OP: I believe your question is quite justified though.
On many cars with climate control, it is indeed possible to
turn off *all* ways of modifying the air (i.e. heating,
cooling, fans) and get real honestogod unprocessed air.
I went looking for this as soon as I bought my car but then
gave up . . .
That the Audi does not offer this option is a puzzle. Not a
problem though, since a combination of econ, low temp, and
low fan will do the trick. But that's a lot of fiddlin around
just to get rid of the technology in the chain, don't you think?
My guess on why this is so, is that the cabin air intakes are
probably oriented in such a way that they can not propel air
into the cabin just by the motion of the car - hence the need
for a fan. And once you have a fan in the chain . . .
The origins of this post are probably lost in the mists of time, but..
..on a TT you simply pull the Climate Control knob to deactivate the
mechanical gubbins. This is quite separate from Econ mode, and may well
exist in other models..
Hairy One Kenobi
Disclaimer: the opinions expressed in this opinion do not necessarily
Pulling the CC knob in a TT disables everything and no outside air will
be let into the car; resulting in one hot ride for all the wrong reasons ;-)
AFAICT this is not what the OP wanted.. he just wants to disable the AC and
use the blowers with fresh air instead of processed air. The million dollar
question is: does "ECON" switch off the AC and blows outside air into
the car instead?
Hmm.. looks like I'll have to try that again - AFAIK Econ kills the
compressor, and pulling the switch disables the fans. Air still gets in
through normal airflow (just as on any other car)
To: kylet@ s h o r e . n e t (Kyle Tucker)
Re: Re: Just fresh air?
By: kylet@ s h o r e . n e t (Kyle Tucker) to alt.autos.audi on Tue Sep 16
2003 03:18 pm
> No, I'd think it was an inquiry as whether or not a method
> exists to get JUST FRESH AIR into the cabin. Apparently there
> is not.
Well duh....what do you think econ is ? Unless you raise the requested temp to
above the outside and interior temp sensors you will get only outside air.
Where did you think it came from?
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Yes, it does have air conditioning. There is no button on the console
that says ECON. There is a button with an odd graphic, but my owner's
manual says it simply overrides the default vent settings to only the
windshield and dashboard, ISTR.
Well, you push the snowflake button to turn the compressor off. That would
be the equivalent of "ECON" in my opinion. I have the exact same car as
you, works well for me on cool crisp days.
'98.5 A4Q 2.8L
That's what I do, keep the snowflake off unless I want the AC, but my
cabin air feels nothing like the outside air because it's so heavily
influenced by the fan and temperature controls. I just find it
annoying to have to constantly adjust the cabin temps to match the
outside temps when all I want is for my vents to bring in virgin
outside air. Yes, sometimes I open the windows, but that's not my
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