cowznofsky at firstname.lastname@example.org wrote on 3/9/09 8:06 AM:
Seems the lights go out, the engine loses electricity through the ignition
that temporarily fixes it self when you re - set they system with a
It might be overheating, with the guages and lights not working to tell you
it is overheating ... long shot of course but it happens. Your vehicle it
nearing on 25 years old ... so the insulation around the wiring loom et al
is deteroriating past its service life.
Volkswagen has parts from Brazil and places where you can swap out the whole
system and it is easy to do with them ... if you want to keep the beamer
then swap out the system and keep it.
Otherwise ... trade up to a newer used vehicle with more service life in it.
The 20 year lifetime of wiring insulation is set in heat and oxidation as
you have electricity running through it ... helping it deteroriate along.
Your starters do not last, your alternators do not last, your wiring loom do
not last, your lights do not last.
C'est la vie car science ...
Have a BMW certified mechanic trace down the electricial if they can get any
codes out of it ... or just swap out the ignition and get a new key done up
... see if that helps.
As long as it is not broken ... it is hard to fix.
Interment problems speak to intermittent electric connection going poop but
not broken yet.
So ignition is best first guess. Major fault in wiring system otherwise.
Don't sound like smog system. But me not a brainaic on this stuff.
sumbuddie hopes this helps
I have a Jeep out in the barn that is closing in on 30 years old, and the
wiring is fine. I've never heard of a service life for a wire.
Granted, the connections oxidize and corrode, and I get all of that, but to
proclaim the end of service due to age is a bit over the top if you ask me.
The OP has not begun to give enough information on his problem to allow
anybody to give an educated guess.
Does it restart as soon as it's died or does it take some time?
Can he hear a funny noise from the fuel pump in back?
Does the problem happen only when the tank is low or also when the tank
When he tries to restart the car and it doesn't start, what does the
tailpipe smell like?
Is it an automatic? Does it have a voltmeter, and if so has the voltmeter
been reading in the normal range?
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
And that indeed was what the problem was. $85 for the diagnosis.
From this description, sounds like it should take about 5 minutes to
fix. Maybe they won't charge me any more for labor. Or maybe I'm
in article leCdnWyf0rYGACvUnZ2dnUVZ email@example.com, tom_k at
firstname.lastname@example.org wrote on 3/10/09 9:04 AM:
yeah ... plan two of course with bmws ... is the electric fuel pump, usually
makes noises and such ... but not always. Reseting the ignition will
sometimes reset the fuel pump so it gets the right pressure up for the
intake system and off you go. Fuel pumps get intermittent towards the end
sometimes ... as do starters sometimes. As old as this car is, might be
both going on.
The starter will not play into an engine that is already running and has
decided to turn itself off unexpectedly. The fuel pump can play into this
scenario, but the starter will be a completely different set of symptoms.
If the Ignition Switch plays into the issue, you can test it by by starting
the car and fussing with the key to see if the engine shuts off. The key
should be held in the ON position by a detent, if the detent is gone and the
keys are heavy, then the lockset can turn easily while driving, and this can
lead to the engine turning off because the key told it to stop. One fix for
this problem is to have the ignition key all by itself so there is no weight
swinging around to turn the key OFF.
Motorsforum.com is a website by car enthusiasts for car enthusiasts. It is not affiliated with any of the car or spare part manufacturers or car dealers discussed here.
All logos and trade names are the property of their respective owners.