You're right. The Lexus and Infiniti are way quicker and more reliable than
the more expensive Bimmer.
Silly comparison, as you say.
I'll bet Car and Driver will be embarrassed when they hear what you wrote.
You sound mighty confused, you posted previously how Lexus has no 3 series
competitor, yet here you are trying to say they are better?
As the engine in the Lexus is 500cc more, I hope they could get more power
out of it than the 3 litre 330. Why not compare it to the 3.2 M3 too see
what BMW can really do with an engine, after all, the IS 350 is the top of
the range for Lexus, isn't it?
But as you said yourself ,"but the handling is just not there .....went
ultra-bland, again. Not a car anyone will dream about owning.....Lexus needs
to get some serious sporting DNA in their bloodline and the new IS does not
look like it will do it"
So what is it to be? The Lexus is better, the BMW is better, or you just
There is no such thing as a "better" car. A car can be better at... or
better this or better that,
The best car for you is the one that is better in your mind, which does
whatever you want. Be it faster, better handling, more comfortable, more
reliable, cheaper etc.
If you like BMWs then that is your best car.
If you like Lexus' then that is your best car,
The whole question was really quite stupid in my opinion.
Since when did I say anything different eh!
But if you are talking about the fastest car, do you mean the fastest
accelerating or the fastest top speed?
In the real world the fastest is the car which gets round the track the
We were talking about acceleration, remember. Acceleration is always tested
in a straight line. Top speed is pretty much meaningless accept for bragging
rights, if one cares about that sort of thing. Precious few cars are ever
driven at their top speed...just no place to do it unless you have a very
slow car. Acceleration can be used daily by anyone pretty much anywhere.
Thanks for the discussion, but I've had enough of the subject.
Good day to you.
Nope, not confused just honest w.r.t. both brands. (I own an LS400 and an
E46 zhp.) As a small luxury sedan with some sporting aspects, the IS350
beats the 330i severely about the head and shoulders. For balls-out
acceleration the Lexus wins with no sweat. For reliability Lexus winds hands
down. For looks I think it's a coin toss. Lexus is bland, BMW E90 is not
bland, but not good, either. For ultimate handling and driver involvement
(and manual gear box), the Bimmer wins big. And for a sports sedan with
luxury attributes that last is probably the most important thing. But not
every 3-series or IS buyer is really that interested in the best handling
and most fun to drive. For many (I suspect most since even for BMW, few cars
are sold in the U.S. with manuals compared with autos), the luxury and
reliability aspect tilt the balance most.
As I recall, you said something to the effect that the Japanese brands
cannot even be considered in comparison with the German brands. That's utter
nonsense and that's what I object to in your post. Both IS350 and G35 are
worthy competitors that are superior to the 330i in some ways and inferior
in others and probably slightly inferior overall (until the Bimmer breaks).
Comparing an M3 with an IS350 would be a swell idea if BMW would lower
prices by some ten to fifteen thousand dollars and I grant you, for those
who will tolerate a teeth chattering ride the Bimmer would be the better
car, but since BMW is reluctant to do that, we need to compare apples with
apples or someone will accuse of silliness. We can wait for the new V8 M3
and the(rumored) V8 IS and see how they compare. (I'd guess the BMW will be
better, but way more expensive.)
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