Hello everyone -
I'm looking into buying a new Chev 2500 4x4 with either the Vortec 6000
or the 8100 gas engines. I was just looking for opinions about both
engines and would like to hear anything people have to say about
problems I may have with either. I'm mildly interested in the Duramax
Diesel but would rather have the gas engines.
If you are not too concerned with fuel mileage (or so it appears because you
want a heavy truck with a large engine), then I can recommend the Duramax
diesel, especially when coupled with the new 6-speed Allison automatic. I
believe that you will find this combination with the High Output version of
the Duramax will give you incredible power (360hp, 650 ft-lbs torque) with
reasonable economy. The 8100 gasser is also an incredibly powerful motor,
but you can probably expect about half or two-thirds the mileage of the
Duramax when identically equipped.
Just my two cents worth - Jonathan
I love this "one half the mileage" claim. Sure it will use some more
fuel but not twice as much and it will be a LOT quieter, no diesel fuel
smell, start in ANY weather without a fuss, use fuel than costs less
than diesel and cost about 5 k less too. (the days of cheap diesel or
over) It will also pull anything a Dmax will pull too. The 8.1 is a true
classic towing beast. I drove a 06 the other day and it was awesome and
a lot more fun to drive than a like Dmax. Also for what it is worth, 06
is the last year for the 8.1 so get it now or never in a new truck. If
you like the diesel and its quirks fine but some people do not.
Talk to folks pulling campers and such. They will tell you straight out
that the 8.1 LOVES gas. The 6.0 isn't far behind. The 6.0 in my 2500HD
gets about 16 empty and towing a 26 foot camper it drops to 10. After
talking to folks who tow with the DMax they are all getting over 19-20
while towing and 24-26 empty with the same size truck. The folks with
the 8.1 are telling me they get about 6-9 while towing and the best one
got 14 empty. Oh and FYI the DMax starts just fine in cold weather and
is just as quiet as the 6.0 in my truck.
"TheSnoMan" < firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote in message
I, too, love it when people chime in with claims. Unlike what Snoman says,
you will definitely see much better fuel economy with a diesel over a gas
motor with similar power. Cheap diesel fuel? Maybe not, but where I live
diesel is the same as mid-grade gas and is not nearly as volitile in it's
price fluctuations (thanks to the trucking industry, the electric utilities,
and home heating fuel, among others).
As to the noise level, I say bunk. My Duramax is quiet enough to open the
hood at idle and have a conversation with a buddy standing next to the
engine while running without having to raise my voice. I will concede that
I don't know much about cold weather starting because here in Florida 60F is
cold, and 50F is Damn Cold.
And while the 8.1 will pull anything a like-equipped Duramax will tow, it
will be doing it at higher RPM's and with a higher rate of fuel consumption.
There's a reason why 2006 will be the last year for the 8.1 - I wonder why?
A Duamax is no more quirky than the big block gasser, unless you consider
one of those quirks passing by the gas station more often instead of
Cheers - Jonathan
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