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There are only a handful of all wheel drive sedans. They include the Ford > Five Hundred, the A6 Audi, the Infiniti G35, the Mercedes E Class, the new > Cadillac, and the Lexus GS. For whatever reason Chrysler has decided to enter > this niche market, and in doing so stuffed it so completely that it is going > to be difficult for the others to breathe. The reason is simple; the pricing > and performance of the Hemi powered 300 C with all wheel drive are unmatched. > The downside is that the all wheel drive makes the 300 C more bulky and less > likely to even approach 18 mpg in daily driving. > > Mom's view: The addition of all wheel drive makes this Chrysler feel much > more heavy and instead of providing you a feeling of solidness, such as > exists in the rear wheel drive version, the C feels overstuffed and cranky. > Over bumps you would swear you were riding in a pick-up truck. Even on smooth > roads the all wheel drive sedan with its slightly raised stance never felt as > connected to the road as its rear wheel drive sisters. > > > 2005 Chrysler 300C AWD (photo: The Car Family) > The point I am trying to make here is why do you really need all wheel drive? > It adds weight, lowers the fuel mileage, does not significantly improve > handling in normal driving, and costs more to buy and maintain. Of course, if > you live where it snows or rains significantly an all wheel drive might be of > value, but why not just get the much less expensive Ford or even a compact > SUV for far less money? The answer probably lies (yes, that's the word that > comes to mind) in the mind of attention seeking males who feel it is > important to have the latest toy. That is why less than five percent of all > SUVs ever get off road, because many are essentially posers. They want the > looks, but not the body and paint shop repair bill for their $40,000 > excursion into the hinterland.

I'd like to add that for real snow capability good ground clearance is most important. The 300C doesn't have adequate ground clearance. In deep snow it is getting hung up on the bottom that usually stops a car. Unfortunately RWD just doesn't hack it for my winter driving to the ski hills, unless I use those ugly chains. I have more experience with RWD than FWD.

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Spam Hater
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They entered this AWD sedan market because Daimler had a lot of old generation E-class drive-train and suspension parts they needed to get rid of.

Look. Soccer mom doesn't need AWD.

The solid feeling comes from the concrete between the ears of people that bought the PR crap about AWD.

Because the LX-chasis 300 is more like a truck. Heck, they borrowed the front clip from a Durango for christ's sake.

Blastpheme!

(gasp!)

Don't let soccer mom hear you say that!

Trust me. In a dicey situation in snow, you will need to brake effectively much more than get going or keep going. All cars have

4-wheel braking. The extra 500 lbs of shit needed for AWD is a liability when braking. Snow tires on a FWD car will equal AWD in 99% of driving situations that soccer mom is going to encounter.

You don't have clearance in the Bentley-300 because of the RWD drivetrain.

The wide front tires are a laugh when it comes to snow. Wide tires are exactly what you don't want in the winter.

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MoPar Man

That's fighting talk...

DAS

For direct contact replace nospam with schmetterling

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Dori A Schmetterling

Oh? So why didn't they USE them, instead of building completely new parts (albeit based on those designs)? The transmissions are made in Kokomo, not Stuttgart. The suspension pieces are made in Detroit.

There are plenty of valid criticisms to level at Daimler for what they tried to do to Chrysler, and if you want to take issue with the 300C's styling, fire away. But I'm sick of reading outright bullcrap. Stick to the facts. Frankly, I consider the fact that the American-designed and built LX cars are outselling all the overpriced blowhard garbage from Stuttgart a rather satisfying form of revenge.

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Steve

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