C7

I had the opportunity to get a look at the C7 in town. Our first (small town). It seems as though the roof has been dropped down. My imagination?

Bob Drake

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Height of the C5 47.7 inches, C6 47.7 inches, the C7 is 48.8 inches, any of then setting in the Corvette museum minus 38 feet..

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Dad

...maybe this is why I've been having a really hard time warming up to the C7. We have a couple of them in town, and I've visited them at dealers, and I just flat don't like them. They seem "taller" and boxy...and now I know why - they are taller. And I seem to be really sensitive to what color does for the lines of the car.

The pictures I've seen of the new Z06 do look "right" to me...because they are wider and that makes them look as low as they should be, I think. But there's no way I'd own a C7 Z06 because of the carbon brakes...just plain too much of an expense on the upkeep for my driving style.

Maybe a C7 Gran Sport?..maybe...

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Rufus

So you need a fatter sports car for a fat American? Sorry, I just don't like the fat Grand Sport and I say keep it lean and mean.. I totally agree that the color make it look different depending on your tastes. The black is looking better with the dark gray second, I've even considered the dark green.

We came out of our favorite restaurant 2 days ago and I had to open the hatch and crawl in to pull it out far enough to let the better half get in, (I can say that because she paid for lunch). The numb nutz in the whacked out Honda parked on her door would have taken the paint off a Grand Sport. I have also found more than just a few Grand Sports sitting on the lot, maybe a dozen or so.

I to have to deal in a small town that has no allotment or ability to sell the C7, seems GM thinks it is its own brand name now. Believe me I've tried and after 6 dealers they can kiss my ass. On the other hand Les Stanford has a couple with $6,000 knocked off the price that I'm going to go take a look at next week. I have to say that I have lost my "burning" desire to even trade. Run a craigslist search around Detroit and at that time I found 5 used for sale, all with less than a

1,100 on them, what's up with that?.
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Dad

I think for the first time I've found a car that I don't like in black...I think the colors you like are probably also the most acceptable colors to me.

That just sounds like people that like to park close and P-O Vette owners...I always park mine strategically, and not based on how far I have to walk. I find it a lot easier to get in and out of my C6 Z06 than my C4, but I still find my C4 to be a bit more comfortable because of the way the seat hugs my back. I'm a skinny dude...

I do think there are probably things that can be done with the door design that could help...my cube-mate put a Lambo-door conversion on her C6, and while I don't particularly like that, it does reduce the car's "wingspan".

I don't even have a GM dealer in my town at all - we lost ours in the bailout. The only car I've ever bought in CA is my '87 Vette (sometime around '89, I think) - I'm the third owner, and I bought it off a friend that didn't keep it very long. I bought my '08 Z06 from a dealer in Indiana two years ago now, for about $30K under the cost of a brand new one...and it only had 4100 miles on it when it came off the truck - and he shipped it to me gratis. Super clean car.

Outside of that, the cheapest place I've found to buy a car of any kind is in the midwest - particularly in the Chicago area. I bought a '92 GMC Jimmy on a factory order and every dealer I went into came in under the last one...without me even saying anything about what the last guy offered to do for me.

Right now I've got my eye on a 2013 Camaro SS in Kansas that I'm thinking of trying to get rid of the '87 for...loaded to the hilt, and the price is acceptable. 2700 miles on it, last time I looked.

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Rufus

Parked backed in drivers side on the curb, handicap on the passenger side, 6' left on his drivers side. There will always be idiots out there.

Gag me with a spoon, lambo doors on a Corvette? I've seen worse, some of the owners should have their toe nails pulled with pliers and washed out with gasoline but then I change very little on a Corvette, my choice as it is theirs. Some people think I'm nuts for the miles I put on them but that's what I buy them for, to drive it when ever I can, rain or shine.

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Dad

Same here...I have Harleys for bolting stuff onto and customizing.

Other than things like floor mats I prefer all of my cars pretty much stock. I'll swap the wheels on my Z06 someday for comp grey ones, but they will be factory 8 spoke comp grey ones. Since I have two Corvettes right now I tend to baby my Z06 and only drive it on highway trips. If I can get rid of my '87 one of these days I'll probably start racking miles on it. I tend to keep vehicles a long time - I have two that have spent over 20 years in my possession.

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Rufus

My first car in my name was April 1958, it sits in my barn in primer with a rebuilt engine and chassis with most of the body work done. been there since '82 when mom sold the farm, Just lost interest in it and have told a friend that has been bugging me forever that I'll sell it to him. Base '50 Chevy coupe no options except heater, stock. It's funny, since I told him I'd sell it he has never mentioned it again. I think he's afraid of the price and I'm not going to say anything because I'm not sure I can do it. The '72 has been around for 14 years but the '05 has been around 9 years 10 months, the 64 is the new comer, but I have a '65 Mustang that has been around here since 1987. Parts have been a bear for it as it is one of the promo cars that was priced at $1965 back in 1965. No options just a 6 with a 3 speed on the floor, 4 bolt 13" wheels small hub caps, (try to find those) mine are from a friends Falcon. Different script on the fenders, generator, hood latch, and on and on it goes. Almost everything done except the replacement frame panels with serial number on them that the state is giving me fits about. Almost had it and the gal in the title office died and the new one braids he pubic hair and rides a broom to work. Got to start all over with the inspections.

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Dad

My cousin has a '68 Shelby 500K convertible that he bought in San Diego as he was getting out of the USMC...paid $2K for it, he's the original owner.

My first car was a '72 Mustang, and I'm well glad that I don't have it...it'd been rolled, and I had duct tape covering a lot of the rust holes - that drove my Ma nuts! Can't keep much in the mid-western salt-slush...not if you drive it.

I'm really more of a bike guy, but the only car I've ever owned that I wished I had back to this day is my '86 Trans Am. It was a GM show car, and I got it as a "brass hat" with 3000 miles on it from the show circuit. Black and gold, 5 speed, 5 liter with a Holley four barrel, WS6 suspension, t-tops, and a Recaro interior. It was loaded with everything but an automatic trans and fuel injection.

I've only ever seen two others like it - both in St. Louis - one like mine, but with an automatic an TPI, and a white one. I bought mine in the Chi-burbs, for about $9K by the time all was said and the deal was done. I was so jazzed with it that I got all the way back to St. Louis before I realized I didn't even have a bill of sale for it...had to go back the next week. Really, really easy to drive, fun to drive car. I'd swap my Z06 for it if I could. Or at least my '87.

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Now for the bike stories, My uncle got married when he was 17 ('47) wife was and still is his wife was 16. Had no money but lied his way into a job at a new plant in Toledo, LOF where they were gearing up to make the "new" wrap around windshields. He found an old Harley and bought it for $15 and got it running. road it to work year round. Forced retirement after 30 years but hired back in as the supervisor of his department and worked some more years, not sure how many. Anyhow the old Harley was still being ridden to work but not every day. It was black with black and white leather saddle bags and the leather had taken a set in their hanging position the last time I saw them, late eighties. It has been years since I've seen him but I did hear one time he had sold it for what I thought was a ridiculous amount.

For a right now story I worked with a Harley nut, well more than one. He has a '39 (don't hold me to that age) restored to look vintage and it sure does. He will make his own castings to make them period/correct and then age them to period. Some time when I'm around him I'll get some pictures of it. There's much more to this story but I'll wait until I have some facts/dates to tell the rest. Interesting man, details are his life and he'll study something until you're bored to death but when he's done you can see why.

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Dad

My dream for retirement is to have my own machine shop and foundry. Then I can be that guy...

My current project is a full-scale F-16 flight simulator, and I'm making some fair progress, but I'm purposely trying to keep it in "kit" form until I move when I retire...in about three years.

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Rufus

Hang on to that dream, I'm going on 13 years of retirement and I'm slowing down. Pisses me off!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Dad

I got slowed down back in '06 when I had a life threatening gut bleed...I've been speedin' back up ever since. We'll see how long I can hang onto that. I still have ups and downs, but I know it's gonna level out one day...

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Rufus

Just a little update on why the C7 might look lower. Check out the height of the window opening at the back of the door up to the roof. Looks to me like they bumped up the height of the door and rear fender like they did on the Camaro to make the roof look lower, like 2" smaller opening on the back of the glass.

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Dad

So you need a fatter sports car for a fat American? Sorry, I just don't like the fat Grand Sport and I say keep it lean and mean.. I totally agree that the color make it look different depending on your tastes. The black is looking better with the dark gray second, I've even considered the dark green.

We came out of our favorite restaurant 2 days ago and I had to open the hatch and crawl in to pull it out far enough to let the better half get in, (I can say that because she paid for lunch). The numb nutz in the whacked out Honda parked on her door would have taken the paint off a Grand Sport. I have also found more than just a few Grand Sports sitting on the lot, maybe a dozen or so.

I to have to deal in a small town that has no allotment or ability to sell the C7, seems GM thinks it is its own brand name now. Believe me I've tried and after 6 dealers they can kiss my ass. On the other hand Les Stanford has a couple with $6,000 knocked off the price that I'm going to go take a look at next week. I have to say that I have lost my "burning" desire to even trade. Run a craigslist search around Detroit and at that time I found 5 used for sale, all with less than a

1,100 on them, what's up with that?. _____________

Dad, I'm with ya'. The only way I can get the better 1/2 into the '93 now is to promise a road trip that will pass by an ice cream shop. I'm 5'7" around

140, so the way the C4's seats grab me is great. Since she'll never drive it, it's all good.

I've only seen 2 C7s here, one yellow, one gray. This is a place where the campus is crawling with Maseratis, Nissan G-specs, Range Rovers, BMW M-series, AMG Mercedes, Porsche coupes, sedans and SUVs, even an Aston-Martin I saw yesterday. Some of the international students must come here with open lines of credit, since it seems none of them behind the wheel are Americans, and the drivers mostly don't seem to have a clue.

BTW, I have a friend with a fully-restored red '62 and a silver '63 split-window fuelie for sale. I can't afford them, but maybe you'd be interested.

AJM '93 40th Anniversary coupe, 6 speed (both tops)

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CardsFan

It doesn't look lower to me...it looks taller. And it is - by about an inch.

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Rufus

Actually 1.1 inch taller like I said in my first reply to Bob.

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Dad

Don't need anymore Corvettes, thanks. We've been looking at maybe a

911 but just not to the point of doing anything yet. Did want a C7 but the dealers are turning me off big time. Plus for some reason there are 6-8 private C7s for sale close by, some with less than 1,000 miles on them. Makes me wonder why, only one is a dealer.
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Dad

Precisely.

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Rufus

...I'm trying to get rid of one - my '87. I just plain need the garage space. No C7 in my future...a truck, maybe.

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Rufus

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