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= I agree. It needs to be fair. However, TBones concept of fair is = anything but. His view is to crush and destroy anyone who has more than = his perceived level of enough.

yeah yeah whatever, blow it our your ass, you Republican scumbags lost and you will lose some more, enough of you ya jerk off, you have nothing of value to contribute now and you never did, eat shit and die.

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You liberals can't even come up with a unique reply? You've copy and pasted this same reply on several forums as a reply to anything you don't agree with. Typical radical liberal.

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miles

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More horse shit and false accusations. The fact that you can't seem to see any level of enough for any single entity shows your shows your level of greed and complete lack of concern for anything but yourself.

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TBone

Once again, you are unable to answer even a simple question.

Oh really. And what exactly is the issue it intended to solve?

And where exactly would you form these breakdown and by what criteria??

Why not?

I agree with you but also feel that it would be far to complicated to implement and be far to subject to corruption.

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TBone

You have never defined enough for anyone. All you ever say is tax the hell out of anyone that has more than your perceptions of enough. No actual thought out determining factors to derive what is enough and no workable steps in determining what exactly to do if someone makes more than enough. Lets hear your tax plan with formulated reasoning behind it. Your only BS is "they're greedy, tax them some more". Good plan.

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miles

I did many times. People should be able to make what their abilities allow them. You've been two-faced on the matter. On one hand you blast them like crazy, say they need to be taxed higher, prevented from making more than some magical amount called 'enough' etc. On the other hand you have stated you do not want limits imposed on how much someone can make even though your wishes would have exactly that effect.

According to you the issue is to prevent people from making more than 'enough'.

Because of the following.

A higher tax simply based on price alone would hurt people of all income brackets for the reason above.

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miles

Hey Tbone... Marxism, Communism, Socialism... Rename it as often as you like, it has never worked...and never will.

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HeatWave

He doesn't believe what he keeps wanting is any of those because he has little knowledge of them. His wishes are exactly what such systems aimed to achieve....and failed.

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miles

Well he should enlighten himself on what it is he is preaching.

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HeatWave

Which of course means nothing. You have yet too define how much can anyone be able to actually make rather than just being in a position to simply take it. Why is that Miles??? Perhaps because you are in somewhat of a similar position and your greed will be seen for what it is and nothing more.

Not at all. Your extreme bias simply doesn't allow you to see the difference.

It has nothing to do with either magic or punishment and the fact that you are unable to even define enough shows your pure greed and complete lack of concern for anything else but yourself. The simple thing is that if you want to take the most then you pay the most and if you take so much that society becomes unable to function, then you pay until it does. If you don't want to get what you think as screwed on your taxes, then pay your workers a living wage and the need for those taxes will drop accordingly. And as an added bonus, the demand for your and other companies services will grow as well allowing you to make even more money and with a lower tax burden. It really is funny that you greedy pricks can't see that.

As I said, your bias does not allow you to see the difference.

What are you even talking about? Your creative editing has removed all meaning from this statement.

And where exactly would these dividing lines take place. Would the rich then further corrupt it be defining classes of cars where a high line economy car would be taxed higher than a low line mega-luxury car, LOL!!

I think that any form of it would be harmful since the rich don't actually spend anywhere near what they take and it would once again put the biggest burden on those that can afford to support it the least.

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TBone

I guess if you are a "greedy prick" who happens to make $1,000,000 bucks a year, I guess paying 350,000 in "federal income taxes alone" isnt good enough. I guess the other 650,000 will never ever get spent in society and taxed again and again. It will just stay tucked under the matress! Muahahaha!

I'd rather be a "greedy prick" than a "jealous socialist sociopath" who thinks the goverment can and should act as some sort of Robin Hood who thinks it can spend my money better. You can take 35% of my income, heck

50% of my income and give it away to people poorer than I, but then I will have no money to spend to support "their" jobs thus they become jobless and I now become poor. Except for the fact everytime my taxes go up I pass the cost onto my customers, just like every other greedy prick. ;-) We can look at france and see how well socialist ideas have been playing out. Non to well obviously.
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HeatWave

The UK is having trouble keeping up with the high cost of socialism. They are having to cut funding for free college in order to pay for free health care for instance. Tax rates are already absurd in the UK so they have trouble hiking taxes further. No way do I want that kind of system here.

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miles

Huh? I'm not the one who says we need to have wage limits. That would be you.

There should not be a ceiling cap on what someones salary can be. Your desire to gain access to someone elses wealth is pure greed. You want something that is not yours.

The wealthy aleady do pay the most but it's not enough for you. They're still rich so you feel the need to take some more. You refuse to set a maximum tax limit. They sky is the limit when it comes to tax rates.

Paying people more that their skills demand will not increase buying power for them. Thats a concept you just can't seem to understand.

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miles

That is not what I asked but I can see how your bias can cloud the question for you. Let me rephrase it for you. How is someone able to MAKE over

1,000,000 a year and don't give me that investment bullshit because the fact is they can't. They simply pay themselves that much because they can since they are the ones that set their own market value which equates to nothing more than taking.

I didn't say that there should but if they are willing to take an excessive amount from others, then they should be prepared to pay whatever is needed to keep society functional.

More spin and BS. I have no desire to gain access to someone elses wealth but if people like yourself continue to have no self control and take as much as possible, then you should be prepared to pay for it.

And how exactly did it become theirs??? Oh yea, because the took it since you have yet to explain how they could have possibly earned it.

You are correct because even though they pay more, they don't pay anywhere near the percentage that they take.

And how is that any different from your sky is the limit on how much they can take?

accordingly.

More smoke and mirrors. Who exactly decides what any skill is worth? Oh yea, the ones taking the most for themselves. I still find it funny that you can't justify the price that they put on their own skills. But you are correct, as long as those on the top remain as greedy as they currently are, not much will change. That is untill the gubberment gets involved again and it will do it because it will be forced to by the population. I really think that you need to crack open a hostory book Miles. Look up the industrial revolution..

I can understand it Miles and so do you. That is why you are so desperate to shut me up.

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TBone

Neither do I but the level of greed form people like yourself will probably make it a reality in a few years.

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TBone

Your jealousy is noted. Their abilities got them there. You can do the same if you had the intelligence to do so. What right do you have to set any limit to what a person in this country can earn?

They already do pay far more than their fair share. How much is enough TBone? When they aren't wealthy any more? What rate is enough to you? You refuse to set any limit of how much you'll punish someone for making more than a magical amount you define as 'enough'.

Bull. You sure do. You are jealous of what they have and want to tax them higher with no limits to how much they should be taxed.

The wealthy already pay by far the most but you want more than that with no limits.

So what tax rate is enough for you? 40%? 50%? 80%? How much is enough TBone?

There should not be a limit to how much ones abilities can earn them.

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miles

Not mine. It is your greed and political absurdity that is pushing the USA down that path. You want more regulation, more wage control, more socialism and more of what someone else has. All you've done is say we need the very things the UK's system has. Now all of a sudden you say you don't? Good grief.

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miles

Yes, yours. It is people like you and your greed that forces the gubberment to pass reguations to protect the masses.

My greed.... me personally..... WOW, I didn't know I had such power, LOL!!!

Is this really the best that you can do???? It is not a matter of what I want, it is what is becoming needed due to the greed of people like yourself. The sad fact is that as more and more of these regulations were eliminated by the right wing congress of the past 12 years, the middle class has gotten smaller and smaller and the larger percentage went down in social standing, not up and the masses are getting tired of it.

all of a sudden you say

Spin it all you want to, it still doesn't change the situation and the people have spoken, even under the right wing spin of fear of terrorist attack if the left got any control.

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TBone

Yes you and the rest of your ilk. Your greed, yes greed of wanting something thats not yours. If you think it is so easy to do what people who make a high salary do then go do it yourself.

It isn't needed. Your logic will not help the economy as you seem to think. Your knowledge of economics has been shown over and over to be rather lacking. For instance, you think the most effective way to raise federal revenue is always to raise tax rates. That TBone, is an indication you do not understand what drives the federal reserves and what has the greatest effect on what it receives.

The Dems won't deliver what the voters expect. Not even close. The issue(s) they voted on were not liberalism at all. On local issues nationwide the more liberal democrat sponsored propositions mostly failed. The Dems do not have the answers to what people voted for. Time will tell.

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miles

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