Insurance co's rake it in!

NEW YORK (CNN/Money) - It costs more to own a car in Detroit, an amazing $11,844 a year for a mid-sized sedan, than in any other city in the country, according to a new report comparing the cost of car ownership in various a U.S. cities.

Released Friday by Runzheimer International, a management consulting firm specializing in transportation reimbursement, the survey revealed that insurance, at $5,162 annually for liability, collision, and comprehensive coverage, is the biggest single reason that maintaining a car in the Motor City is so expensive.

Runzheimer calculates costs based on a fully loaded 2006 Ford Five Hundred SEL with a 3.0 liter, 6-cylinder engine. The calculation also assumes that the car is driven an average of 15,000 miles for four years within a 50 mile-radius of the city.

Philadelphians would pay nearly as much, $10,672 with $4,142 going to pay for insurance, as would Los Angelenos, at $10,361, including insurance costs of $3,225.

The same car would cost just $7,399 a year in Knoxville, Tennessee., a savings of $4,445 compared with Detroit.

Maintenance costs also vary quite widely, from a high of 7.35 cents-per-mile in San Francisco to a low of 4.19 cents-per-mile in Charlottetown, Pennsylvania.

Car ownership costs:

Detroit -- $11,844

Philadelphia -- $10,672

Los Angeles -- $10,361

Boston -- $9,660

Miami -- $9,216

Baltimore -- $9,125

Denver -- $8,949

Houston -- $8,467

Topeka, KS -- $8,078

Grand Forks, ND -- $7,423

Sioux Falls, SD -- $7,401

Knoxville, TN -- $7,399

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RichA
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I refuse to believe that an average driver in Detroit pays over $400 a month for full coverage insurance. Anybody here in Rock City?

Seems that they missed some other core components to car ownership. We here in the south pay an annual personal property tax on our vehicles. Other states such as California have pretty steep registration fees, and of course there is also the sales tax on the initial purchase. It also seems that the maintenance costs on a new vehicle are pretty damn steep in their calculations unless they are including fuel costs as part of maintenance.

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ZombyWoof

Maybe they mean pay that much for a brand new car, for a driver under age 20, with stacks of moving violations and accidents......

Spike

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Spike

In Toronto, it's about right. I have an unblemished record and was quoted $11,000/yr for my Mustang by one company. The lowest was was $5,200. I doubt I'd get even a domestic sedan (one of the least expensive cars to insure) for under $3000.

-Rich

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RichA

In the Chicago 'burbs, I pay $550 a year for a 2005 Mustang GT conv. through AARP/The Hartford.

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Larson E Whipsnade

As if the price of fuel wasn't bad enough.... Makes ya wonder how heavily invested in the ricer car market the insurance companies are....

Spike

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Spike

Ok, my current licensed & registered stable includes a 2005 F-150,

2001 Mustang ragtop, 2002 Chevy Astro, 2002 Chevy S-10 and a `99 HD FXSTC. The insured drivers on all vehicles are two 50 year olds with clean records, a 21 yo female with a pretty shabby record, and a 17yo with a clean record. For all of this I pay $1900 every six months for full coverage with $250 deductibles and $100/300K liability.

The bike is $300 a year on top of that. The most expensive of the herd is the `01 Mustang which is assigned to the 17 yo at $750 every six months. The `05 F-150 with me as the assigned driver is $305 every six months.

Now that is four insured drivers on five vehicles at less then the quoted $5k a year.

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ZombyWoof

Well two things; First that isn't the US, and second, that is insane.

Reply to
ZombyWoof

Actually I never wondered about that. Investments by insurance companies has everything to do with return on investment and little to do with anything else.

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ZombyWoof

Blah, blah, blah. What the f*ck do you expect? Someone has to pay for the insurance payouts related to 9/11.

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cprice

Spike

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Spike

Spike

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Spike

Don't bet on it. My brother, who's in the insurance industry, is still working claims from 9/11, and he tells me that the amount of money that continues to get paid out is mind-boggling.

Spike wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

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Joe

It may be mind boggling, but I note that quoting your brother does not include a comparison of the payouts for multiple hurricane destructions, earthquakes, forest fires, etc vs 9/11.

Many cases are not settled until years after something happens. There are quite a number of cases where the litigants actually die before the case is settled. Why? Because that's what the insurance companies want. Drag it out as long as possible. Why? In some cases because once the litigants die, the case is over and nothing has been paid. In other cases, if they drag it out long enough, the litigants will run out of funds to fight them, and will be glad to settle for whatever amount they can get. In other cases it's because attorneys are making money hand over fist.

I would venture that the majority of suits from 9/11 are handled by contingency. So, whatever the case settles for, the attorney gets generally 1/3.

For example, when my s>Don't bet on it. My brother, who's in the insurance industry, is

Spike

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Spike

I am sorry to hear about the loss of your Son. If it doesn't drag up some bad-ass memories I would like to query you on some issues of the case.

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ZombyWoof

The goal of any business I would suspect.

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ZombyWoof

ZombyWoof wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

True, as he doesn't work those cases. But the 9/11 cases are dragging out a lot longer than most hurricane cases down here in SoFla.

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making

Another sad truth.

Not necessarily, but in some cases yes.

I'm also sorry to hear about your son. That's something I can't even imagine. You have my heartfelt sympathy.

Joe Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC

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Joe

Well, at least for anyone who wants to stay in business and not lose everything they have... : ) Spike

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Spike

It's in the past. That happened back in Mar 1990, and after a bad period, I got past it. As for discussing it, I think that would be better discussed direct depending upon your interest in the case.

Spike

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Spike

A hurt like that sticks around with you for ever & ever. It can be tucked away in the corner of the mind, only to screaming out of the night like a banshee. While I have not lost a child, I came quite close and it was a horrifying experience. I doubt I could live through a complete loss like that without some major scaring.

The question had/has to do with lawyers and the fact that they are the only ones who ever win. Did you attempt to negotiate a settlement without legal beagle avarice & greed?

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ZombyWoof

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