Re: V6 vs V8

Now for the flames!!!!! Educate him Ctd owners...

naww wouldnt want to tell him bout my lil 6 cyl.

I'm curious as to why the slant six didn't idle / run smooth. Every one that I had ran smooth enough to make you wonder if it was running or not.

Budd

Since I am the original poster of that reply (6 mos ago), the argument was about a V6 design, not an inline design and I am also a proud owner of an '04 CTD. Of course that also excludes the slant six as well. On another note, the slant six also had a nuch weaker bottom end in comparison to the GM and Ford equivelents. (5 vs 7 main bearings) This however was not an issue at stock power levels. As for not seeing inline engines as much as before, I am afraid it is because of packaging restraints created by today's compact body styles. Steve

Not really on the flames because one, the CTD is not a gas motor and two, the CTD engine is not built by Dodge either.

There was nothing weaker about the bottom end of a slant six. It long stroke with a small bore required a different main bearing arrangement to keep engine compact. It had less bearing but the ones it had were very healthy and sturdy and nothing cheap in their design at all. The old slant six is likely the most durable 6 ever built and emmsions killed it off, not bad design. I owned a few slant 6's of the 60's era in the early to mid 70's and they were fine smooth engines and powerfull for their size too. Back it 74 when I was redeploying to another base in my 66 Cornet with a slant 6 I ran it across about all of Oklahoma at 90 MPH plus in summer heat with no problems. One fine motor.

Steve Lusardi wrote:

Many years ago a friend that I raced with decided to play with a slant six. He found some article about a "hyper pac" and ended up with a multiple carb sleeper that he beat the crap out of for a couple of years. Never a problem with the lower end on that engine or actually any slant six that I remember. As far as a s/six, my wife's 05 envoy has one in it. I believe it is rated at 265 HP, a fairly snappy engine.

Roy

Ya know, it's funny that, years ago, engineers from the current owners of Mopar (Diamler / Mercedes) don't agree that the /6 lower end is weak . . in

Now, having personally taken 3 slant sixes over 100,000 miles myself (160K,

By the way, a inline six is about the same length (except for the slant six which is about as long as a V-8) as a V-10, give or take a couple inches. And a whole lot narrower.

Budd

I think that the popularity of front wheel drive is a big factor in the development of the v-6, also.. kind of hard to mount an inline six sideways..

mac

Please remove splinters before emailing

A very good point too!

It coulda fit in a Pacer....

Denny

I'll agree about the "leaning tower of power" being a STRONG engine. I consistently revved my '63 170 over 6 thousand RPM, where it delivered 206 HP (dyno verified) to the rear wheels through a torqueflite. This was not a weekend racer, but an everyday street driven engine. It was still going strong at almost 200,000 miles on the original stock bottom end when I sold it. The '69 225 would not rev much over 5 grand, and was not nearly as highly tuned, but I drove that Dart across Montana at 104 MPH back in

That'd be the all time fugly car.

Roy

AMC did produce the "All Time Fugly Car" but it wasn't the Pacer. It was the Matador. Photo:

Only if it were built to take seats that _you_ are comfortable in . . . . VBG

Budd

But not between the front wheels. The way they installed the 232 and

my 86 d100 had the slant in it and when i sold it, it had 300k on to my knoledge the original motor. dude that bought it passed me on the highway the other day. still driving it and still with a grin on his face.

-chris

You're just pissed you couldn't get the valve cover off....

I don't think I ever saw a 304 in one of them.

Denny

clare at snyder.on.ca wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

Well, the slant 6 in my Ram wasn't that unsmooth. It was alright I guess; it ran great (esp. after replacing the plugged up cat converter). Besides the '87 Ram D150 with a slant 6, I also have owned a '64 Dart 170 with a \6 bought from the original owner in '95 for $700 with 90k miles and ran wonderfully and just had a faded paint job. I should have kept it and painted it instead of selling it. Stupid, stupid mistake. I also have owned a '72 Plymouth Volare that I bought at a charity auction for $300. That was a wonderful car -- 70k miles, white 4 door, plain jane low option car that was unmolested. It had no carpet, plain small hubcaps (original), radio delete (it still had the plastic cover that Chrysler put on cars that didn't come with a radio) but it did have the auto tranny (the only option it had).

Driving the '72 Volare 4 door was like driving some sort of municipal or gov't car or an unmarked detective's car or something. It ran perfectly after a full tuneup, but the cylinder head cracked while my sister was borrowing it. I gave a mechanic "friend" of mine $1000 to install a rebuilt head (that he could get for $200 from an acquaintance of his) and while it was apart, do a ring job/rod bearing job, change gaskets, flush the tranny, etc.. But instead of doing it that way, he just tore the head off of an old Duster in his friend's junkyard and put that in my Volare and then he just pocketed (stole) the $1000, without doing any additional work on the Volare (rings, bearings, etc.). The Volare ran like crap after he worked on it and had coolant/oil mixing. I was pissed and never did get that money back from him. I sold the Volare, in disgust. But I'd like to pick up another '70's Dart or Volare 4 door or even an Aspen.