I hope someone can help. My 95 Taurus has been shifting weird. It'll
seem like it slips to neutral sometimes while I'm driving....engine
revs, I push the pedal a couple of times and then it'll 'find itself'
and be okay. Then it also will downshift with a hard clunk as if I'd
hit the brake when I haven't. I'm afraid to take it too far and I'm
also afraid to take it to a transmission place because frankly I don't
trust any of these 'specialty shops' especially since we're new in the
area and haven't learned where the trustworthy repair people are yet.
We changed the throttle position sensor last week and that didn't make a
difference. Any suggestions...we want to know what we're talking about
when we take it to a repair guy.
I've lurked here a couple times before and got help with a subframe bolt
recall just by reading here. Thought I was stuck with it and found out
it was Ford's problem thanks to you all!!!
Thanks for your time, I'll check back later.
Did you check your fluid level? Engine warmed up, in Park.
What trans? look on the trans pan... if it says AX4S, it may be the
tranny.. it could be anyway...but if it says Ax4N or something "SHO" those
Was your Cruise control working okay?
Check your VSS, and its connections - on the trans connected with the speedo
Change the trans fluid and filter.. buy a bottle of Lucas AT fix. fill trans
carefully dont overfill
See if your locale has a consumer watchdog list... these are published by
local people based on customer recommendations. Call the local paper, see if
they do a list like that.
Thanks for the response. What is a VSS? The fluid level is fine. Will
have to see what numbers/letters are on the transmission pan. Forgot to
mention that the problem doesn't start happening until I've gone a
couple of miles... after it's warmed up a bit. (Oh God...please don't
let it be the transmission!!) Our son has been encouraging us to get
the fluid changed. Guess that will be next....even though I've heard
horror stories about having that done.
Vehicle Speed Sensor COULD affect shifting
I dont really know all that much about trans... but it Dont look good...
Go to auto parts store.. Get that LUCAS Transmission Fix
Cant hurt, might help..I know for a FACT it stops slippage a good amount
I read your post again. Try the Lucas as a Band Aid and also the VSS. It
your trans is on its way out. These two things can't hurt.
I missed the part about "dropping out of gear on turns" IIRC Left hand turns.
seen a lot of Tauri do that. Nobody has ever been able to tell me why, but it is
ALWAYS a harbinger of failure. BUT....Try the VSS and a fluid\filter change just
because. They will use the new VSS on the rebuild.
Sorry for the bad news, Tom
Thanks, TOM! Thats what i was thinking. I did more research on Lucas and
the only BAD thing I read on the user forums was from guys that dont believe
in additives,,, and I dont either but I know this stuff works for SOME
oh... the 95 IS still mech speedo!
Margie... if you get Cruise set at 50 and it drops out or surges then your
VSS IS bad, if it doesnt that doesnt mean that's not the problem however.
I agree with what Tom said..changing the pan fluid and filter, add Lucas, and
change the VSS is about all you can do.
If it works, You bought some time.
So your trans must bean ax4s, I bet
Thanks guys...that's a lot of info!! I'll try the cruise (I've only
used it on trips back and forth to Mass. from Delaware). Then I'll run
these suggestions by my son...he's auto body but has played around with
lots of mechanicals. Then I'll talk with the one repair guy we've had
good luck with around here. I think he's honest enough to not take us
for a ride.
Here is a link to a transmission parts site. It has some information on
diagnostic problems and possible causes that may be of some help.
These are not DIY stuff, but the symptoms listed maybe similar to what
Back in the day, as a tech, I wouldn't change the fluid and filter on a trans
more than 60-70,000 on it because it "could"cause problems. I've dealt with it
been there. Since the late 80's I don't know if this holds true. I changed the
in my 84 MK-VII at 120K with no
problem. There were some problems with Taurus transmissions in the 80s thru 90s
yours sounds like MAYBE a Vehicle Speed Sensor problem. IIRC it can be reached
under the car, or even down past the engine. From the driver side, behind the
directly below the passenger side rear of the motor (assuming 3.0 motor). It
strong nimble fingers and a 10mm wrench\socket to remove the retainer bolt.. It
into the transaxle about 6 inches inboard of the right (pass side) axle, on top
housing. (On my 88 Taurus it could only be reached by lowering the cradle.)
model. IMHE the VSS is often stuck in place due to corrosion. On pre 96 models
is room to finagle it, on later models (my 88)the trans has to come out to fight
it. On your 85, I believe the speedometer is still cable driven, a bad VSS may
show up on the speedo. On later models, when the VSS failed the speedo would
not work at all.
I believe a new VSS is about $25.00. It's worth the chance to avoid a $1.5K
A 1.5 K rebuild? My god, I just spent $1,133 having the valve body and
some gearshift solenoid replaced. How much of a rebuild consists of that?
I'm hoping I extended the life of my transmission another hundred thousand
by having that work done.
$1.5K wasn't an exact estimate. The last time I heard about an AXOD rebuild it
about that, yea, it's been a while. The point is that It can't hurt to toss a
bucks at it to maybe buy some time until an expensive rebuild.
Also, during a rebuild the solenoids and valve body (2 pretty expensive parts)
not generally replaced. These parts along with gear sets, final drive sets,
needed will, of course, send the cost through the roof.
Tell me about it. Mine was $984, minus the $200 core refund. I'm not a
rich person. Writing the $1133 check left 73 cents in my checking account.
Two days later, I discover that the radiator has sprung a leak. :-(
This month alone I've spent $1,263 on repairs, plus $195 on a car rental.
Since July 1, I've spent $2,868.42 on repairs and maintenance. For the
year, I'm up to $3,711.
I still owe $1300 on this car. I'll have it paid for in April of 2005. I
REALLY want to avoid taking on payments for a new car. If I can JUST get
it to last until April when I can have the relief of not having to pay $260
a month on a car payment, I think I can swing it. But I haven't even had a
good chance to recover yet from all the recent repairs.
This week it was the transmission.
Last week I needed tires and an oil change.
The week before that I needed a tie rod end and front-end alignment.
The week before that I needed brakes done all the way around.
A couple of weeks before that, I replaced three tires.
A few weeks before that, my warped heads were redressed.
A few weeks before that, an oxygen sensor had to be replaced.
I can't seem to get ahead with one repair after another. When does it ever
Probably not soon for me. My lighting pulsates intermittently. And now
there's a strange noise coming out from under the hood when the compressor
They say that money can't buy happiness, but right now, about $10,000 sure
would make my misery a lot more bearable.
Sadly, this is a common story with this series Taurus. Problems with the 3.8
gaskets, tranny problems with the AX4(N?), coupled with lack of maintenence by
first owner(s) made these cars a bad choice in the used market. Especially when
vehicle was sold overpriced to an unsuspecting buyer at a high interest rate.
saying this is your situation). The small used lots and Buy Here Pay Here lots
here loved these cars. The dealers would take them on trade and immediately send
to the auction.They got them dirt cheap at the auctions and many were scrapped
repoed before they were paid for due to multiple expensive failures.
Mine has the 3.0 engine. But the head gaskets had a little abuse a couple
or three tiems in a row. First the water pump went out and blew all my
water out. The temperature climed really fast, but I managed to get the
car pulled over and killed before it got all the way up to the actual hot
mark. Right after having that replaced, I was going down the road and the
temperature started climbing again. I didn't notice until it was 3/4 of
the way up the gauge. There was an ice bag caught between the condenser
and the radiator. After that, the temperature started climbing again, but
that's because by then the heads were warped from the recent overheating.
On my '94 the symptoms of the VSS where erratic shifting and power steering
going hard/soft as this car has the speed sensing steering.
Didn't try the cruise at the time but that will be affected if the VSS is
The VSS is the cheapest thing to try and will make the trans. act like it's
on the way out.
The VSS is a known wear out part, mine lasted 125k miles though.
It's a pain to change but the results will be immediate if yours is bad.
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