EGR system plugged

1980 Ford Tbird 255CID. (similar to 302)

  1. Is this a vacuum actuated valve or backpressure type. It does not respond to full vacuum.

  2. I assume the passage into the intake is blocked because the idle does not change when I open the valve and I cannot blow compressed air thru it. Plenty of exhaust air is getting to the valve. Problem is that I cannot find any opening into the intake manifold. There is a passageway towards the carb about 1/2" wide and 1 1/2" long but using various bent wires, coat hangers etc I cannot find any way into the manifold.
Reply to
Martik
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It might be both, a backpressure variable transducer type egr would use vacuum and backpressure to actuate the valve under different conditions. Have no idea if this applies to your case but the 1990 Escort GT uses this type egr.

If it is not responding is the pintle clogged with carbon deposits? Try cleaning the pintle if not already, egr valves are expensive and for a 1980 good luck finding one.

Reply to
sleepdog

I'm not familiar with your combination (even though I had a 1981 Cougar with the same motor for a brief period). Some of these had an EGR cooler mounted to the carb base plate..... My DVD manuals don't go back even close to that far but you may want to study your installation closely.

Our area has always been pick ups and cars are usually one of those "reaching for knowledge" type projects. Do you have an identifiable driveability concern ? The EGR cooler may present some unique considerations.

Sorry I can't be more helpful ( I just know someones gonna pick up on this) but advice has to start from somewhere and "it's old - get rid of it" doesn't necessarily fit everyones budget...

Reply to
Jim Warman

There is no cooler in this application. My main concern is how to clear the passage into the intake manifold. No driveability problems just need to pass smog test for collector plates.

Reply to
Martik

Your EGR valve is mounted to a spacer plate under the carb, correct? All of the passages are in this plate. Remove the carb and plate, the passages can be seen from the bottom. You will likely find the plate clogged with carbon. It sounds like you have the valve off right now, you should have a large vacuum leak with the car running. These plates had a habit of eroding between the vacuum and exhaust ports. If, after cleaning, the casting looks thin then replace the plate. They used to be available at parts stores but I haven't bought one in quite some time. (You may find the passages have been filled with epoxy or something of that nature, it was a common thing for people who wanted to "get rid of that emissions crap" back then). On reassembly, be sure to use the correct carb and spacer gaskets. There were a few different configurations. Regards, Tom Adkins

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Tom Adkins

All passages are in the manifold casting below the plate/gasket.

Pictures here:

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Reply to
Martik

From the pictures it would appear as though the EGR passage leads right from the place the EGR valve mounts to the openings on each plenum of the intake. What I would do is get some strong carb cleaner (I live Valvoline SynPower, it's strong stuff) and spray it down the EGR passage that goes to the intake/under the carb. If you don't see any coming out the passages under the carb it is clogged/plugged. If that is the case I'd fill it up with cleaner until it came out the plate the EGR valve mounts to and let it sit. Perhaps that will dissolve the buildup/clog.

Cory

Reply to
Cory Dunkle

AAAhhh, I forgot about that style intake. I missed in the original post where you said the motor was a 255. The vacuum passages are there in the throttle bores. They should be open back to the EGR mount.

Reply to
Tom Adkins

A 1/4" drill bit turned by hand finally cleared the passage!

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Martik

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