On a related note, I came across an article in the Blue Oval News, same
subject, tonight. 350,000 police units, 20 years, 14 police deaths due to
the rear-end collision fires. There was also an incident recently where a
female officer was inside on of the CV units and was rear-ended at ~100mph.
She survived because the cruiser had the new plastic shield surrounding the
fuel tank... Free for the police, $150 for you to buy and install.
Also a collaboration with reps from the aerospace industry for installing
fire supression systems as another safety measure.
Here we go again, more BS in the NG's about the CV. The gas tank
is, technically, behind the rear-end but it is ABOVE the axle.
The fire suppression system will be offered as an option. During
those same years you elude to, more officers died on frontal
collisions and more officers died on bicycle patrol as well.
Police work is dangerous. The NHTSA investigation into the CV
resulted it a finding that the CV was not a hazard and in fact
far exceed the federal standard for rear collisions. Just more
Ford bashing by shark lawyers looking for a way around state
workmen's compensation laws.
I hope that I didn't present that wrong... I'm completely behind Ford on
this one. The stats just don't begin to prove the unsafe claim! That was
also the intent of the article - how can a car this safe be unsafe?!
I am a Deputy Sheriff and if I had my way every police force in the country
would be driving Crown vic's. Its the best car I have ever driven... great
handling, incredible power and even really surprising in snow. The only
thing I would ever change is the braking. As far as stopping in high speed
situations they are good but could be better. Wouldnt trade my crown vic for
any other police vehicle... Well ok Maybe a Hummer.. heh heh
Not even a Grand Marquis or a Town car?
...hehe just kiddin' man I like those too, and I'm not even a law
enforcement. Where I live I think almost all the local police cars are
Crown Vics. I think maybe some of the slightly older ones might be chevy
Now, Oklahoma Highway Patroll has some cameros......
A modified SVT Focus (automatic, HD battery) is what you really need. Much
better handling, braking, fuel economy and better in snow than the Crown
Vic. Keep a few CVs around for transports and such. Of course you weren't
looking for a rational solution - were you?
We're discussing the SVT Focus where vehicle dynamics, including weight,
result in excellent handling, fuel efficiency and more than enough "spunk"
for the task at hand. Most any tuner can piece together something that'll
easily out run a CV or anything else in a typical police stable. Radio's
where made for situations like this. While on the subject, I think regular,
non-packing citizens should not need to worry about 4 ton CVs, etc.
careening down the highway at supra_legal speeds because the operator thinks
someone deserves a ticket of one sort or another. No need for it and it's
just plain dangerous for everyone involved, especially innocents. Hell, it's
not unusual to see these joy riding CV pilots (term used very loosely)
chasing well endowed motorcycles on public streets where pedestrians,
including children, frequent. Absolutely ridiculous and it's NOT what
they're being paid for. So, yes, the modified SVT Focus that I suggested is
indeed entirely suitable to the task at hand.
Well you wouldnt catch me dead in a Focus and it wouldnt be suitable for
Police use....Far too small and if you have ever seen the front seat area of
a cruiser you would understand that there is no way you could fit in all the
equip. radio's and stuff. Not to mention if I am in a pursuit I sure as hell
dont want to be in a tiny car.... I want atleast a little protection. Not to
mention the room in the back seat for transporting subjects. I agree
pursuits are not always the best way to deal with things but then again your
not out there. Look closer into the subject before you get too anal about
pursuits alright? I understand your view...just dont agree. Trust me we dont
like putting our lives on the line for these idiots but sometimes you have
Well I'll tell you what... CIA agent Sydney Bristow / Jennifer Garner looked
very fine and dandy indeed throwing her little Focus SVT through all the
paces in at least a couple of chase scenes on ABC's "Alias" last season...
but... I liked her all-black Crown Vic Interceptor better...
Someone has to start thinking outside the box. You're the professional, why
shouldn't it start with you?
A) I'm well aware of the equipment that occupies the front area of a typical
CV. It'll fit in a modified SVT Focus (it's not a tiny car) in the same way
it fits in a modified CV.
B) Since the SVT Focus handles *much* better than a CV (or hopped-up Lumina,
etc.), it's actually safer at all speeds.
C) I wrote that a few CV type vehicles should be on hand for transports,
D) I can only speak from my experiences. However, they seem rather
universal. You can trust me when I write that *I* don't want you to put your
life on the line in a needless chase. OTH, I'm forced to share the same
roads that you use and I'm sure you can understand that I don't want *you*
to put my life on the line in a needless chase. How do you expect an
inexperienced operator -covers most drivers on the road- to react when a CV
displaying a light show that's more exciting than some concerts comes very
quickly from behind? Commonsense dictates that said operator is going to
freak out. You never know what they're going to do. They might quickly stop
in a dangerous manner/area that puts you and I at risk. They might increase
speed, forgetting that you have a radio and that you'll probably give chase.
Again, putting you and I at risk. They might simply lose control. Again,
putting you and I at risk. You never know and I don't want to find out. Why
not just get the details - description, plate if you can and radio it in and
deal with them later - hopefully when they're stopped?
I don't pretend to have all the answers but if you're interested in stopping
ESLs, all you need to is merge into traffic and "do" the posted speed limit.
It's that simple. It's you're interested in passing out some tickets, turn
the camera on a record a series of idiots who haven't discovered lane change
signals. They're an extreme danger to us all. I'm sure you can think of may
others. Good luck!
Ok so *you* are saying...aww what the hell lets just let these guys go and
hope we catch up to them some day after comiting several more crimes? I hate
to burst your bubble but its not possible to just get a plate # and then
find them later... most of the ones who are chased are in stolen vehicles
for one. Second we do not chase just the typical speeding vehicle. We have
standards... Do you just think we go out and find people to chase? Its not
that simple. Oh and by the way....you cant compair a TV show to real police
work...yeah I've seen people on TV shows do a lot of amazing things in cars,
motorcycles...and a lot of other vehicles....But the key thing to
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