The US has enough know oil reserves to supply ALL of our domestic
needs. The problem over that past twenty years has been that
overly restrictive environmental laws in the US that have reduced
our ability to obtain those reserves at a price that is
competitive with the mid east crude, hence we import half of our
crude. In fact we have been importing refined produces as well,
because of the high cost of refining in the US and our inability
under those laws to build new refineries. Blame the politicians
that are afraid of the environuts. The good thing is we will
have oil in the future, when the cheaper crude supplies are gone,
but by then we will probably be using much more expensive
hydrogen to power our vehicles.
Childfree Scott wrote:
More bullshit from the man of a thousand screen names.
The hike in prices of gasoline on the west coast are in part in response the
the reduction of Opec production. But, as has been widely reported in all
of the major news outlets, the main reason why west coast gasoline prices
are .40-.50 above the eastern US is because the producers out here have
slowed production and in some cases completely shut down refineries. The
oil companies are playing the same game that the electric producers and
wholesalers played a few years ago. Prices are expected to approach
$3.00/gal by Labor Day. Thanks go out to the conservatives for fostering
the sort of anti-consumer environment that allows this fraud to occur.
Also, hydrogen is an idea put forth and perpetuated by the conservatives.
It's BS. They have also managed to cut funding for new energy research,
like cold fusion.
Maybe the fact that the oil companies spent millions to get Bush elected
has something to do with it?
Now, with his reelection looking more and more unlikely, they have one year
to act. Now's the time to create shortages and crises, get that price up
before Bush is gone.
Your certainly are entitle to you opinion, no matter how
convoluted it may be. The only BS here is your confusion of the
facts. Of course OPEC is in a position to set the crude
production, their production cost is $20 below that of the US.
California is a prime example of environmentalism gone amuck.
The reason your fuel price are high is the lack of refining,
storing and shipping capacity and the inability to update them,
the result of problems caused by California's environuts. Did it
ever occur to you why adjoining states have lower fuel prices and
states like Pennsylvania with many refineries have the lowest
prices? If allowed to continued the rest of the county will be
in the same sorry fix. We can have all the crude we need by
simply suspending some of the stupid environmental laws that are
causing the enormous difference in base cost, over imported
Indeed I have the ability to connect to the NG's from many
different stations with different names but I always sign the
same name, Mike Hunt. Many of those you have attribute to me
however are not some of the station from which I access the NG's
Whole Lotta Tom wrote:
Where is that $1.49 price Mike? I don't disagree with your position on this
topic but I have never found PA's gas prices to be all that low. I grew up
in Allentown my sister lives in Bethlehem, mom in Wilkes-Barre brother in
Lancaster, in-laws in Philly, brother-in-law in Pittsburgh and none of them
have seen a buck and a half gas lately. I reside in a DC Virginia suburb
and VA has had lower gas prices than PA for as long as I have lived here (16
years) and as far as I know we have one refinery in Yorktown, VA. Maybe we
have lower taxes?
Then prices just went down in a pretty big way! Went to see dear old mom
two weeks ago and the Sheetz station just outside of York on I83 said
$1.64/9 on the marquee. We filled up in Hazleton at the Exxon just across
the street from the PSU campus next to the Val-Mont Industrial Park and we
paid $1.66/9 for 87 octane unleaded!!!
It is $1.62 in Fogelsville and at 3rd and New streets in
Bethlehem. Look likes you should have driven a bit farther and
gotten away from the high prices near Intestate 81 and 83. The
Sheets station is up past the Hazleton airport. Funny thing
though that Exxon station just across the street from the PSU
campus went out of business several months before the end of last
year and still has $1.19 posted. ;)
Ah, wait Mike you said Hazleton was one of the $1.49 spots and that is off
I81. I don't know where that closed Exxon station is you mentioned but I
will admit I was in error of claiming I purchased gas at an Exxon. Wife
says it was a Sunoco A-Plus mart. For proof I tried to find the phone
number to verify the price but much to my dismay the listing is forever lost
because it not listed under Sunoco or A-Plus so I assume the owner has
preceded the listing with his or her name. If you are really all that
interested in disproving me try calling Rossi's Bar which is across the
street from the said gas station, their number is 570-455-8122. Since
Rossi's has been there since I was a kid (didn't always live in Allentown)
living off Airport Road (Dipple Manor area) I'm sure they can vouch for the
gas station in question. While you are at it call the 999 Airport Road
Sheetz at 570-455-0115 and ask them how much 87 octane unleaded is. Try
$1.69/9 not $1.49/9 like you stated less than 24 hours ago right down here-I
The only convoluted opinion is yours.
There is plenty of production capacity in the west and there are larger
crude reserves here than in the east, but refineries have deliberately
slowed production and closed refineries to tighten gasoline supplies. The
industry has been quite open about it.
All of the screen names posted were used by you at one time or another.
And, no, you have not been consistent about using Mike Hunt. I remember you
as the "Mayor". Your most prominent posting feature is an unabashed
proclivity to prevaricate.
Like I said you are simply confused, again. Their no conspiracy,
the loss of refining capacity and the inability to tap those
offshore reserved profitably is a direct result of California's
overly restrictive environmental lows, nothing more. The goofy
Californians even amended their constitution to outlaw low cost
nuclear power plants, then complain when the cost of electricity
went up. Do some research before you jump on a subject and
perhaps your posts will not appear so uninformed so often. And
no my friend if I posted it, it is signed mike hunt. I'm not the
only one with access to those station through which I access the
Whole Lotta Tom wrote:
I never mentioned a conspiracy. Your feeble attempt to yet again dismiss
what is an open fact has failed again. The industry has been quit clear
about what it is now doing in the west. I see that you are still playing to
the nuclear power interests. I recall how you described it as a "clean"
energy. It's as if the large corporate intrests are sending you a check for
your insistant brown nosing. And, yes, you have posted under different
names. Mike Hunt was one of many.
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