An article in today's paper says U-haul did this becasue of the
public's perception of the Explorer as an unsafe vehicle.
While speculation on my part, I think the 'public' doesn't know how to
drive or tow, and simply assumes that any problem with an Explorer
must be the fault of someone else (*anyone* else).
WHen that 'anyone' includes U-haul, and they sue U-haul (who "should
have known" the Explorer was a dangerous vehicle), U-haul has to pay
the bill for the legal defense.
And yes, indeed, such defense does cost U-haul money, as the insurance
companies will indeed raise their premiums when they need to defend
the clients like that.
And they "the public" are on the jury and eager to hand over money
to the little guy if they can find an excuse to do so. :(
We "the public" -are- the jury, we are also stupid as shit. :(
Yep the stupid-ass jury;) (us!) will see it as "partly fault of
U-Hual" while coming up with the number of bucks they are going to
"there's money in them there lawsuits" so there are prospective
lawsuits (prosector-lawyers? ;).
I couldn't agree more... with your whole post. :)
Alvin in AZ (ex c-span junky ...I quit before I exploded;)
==========================Me too, I agree. AND If you ask me, just ban all the SUV's period because
people cant drive them without hurting themselves and the people they run
into(or roll over). I say make them drive station wagons because thats what
they really *need*. Whats really sad is the lawyers get most of the
money(or a very large percentage) when a tragic accident happens, *death
money*. It is probably a good thing that Firestone lost their ass over this
because it will make them and other tire makers pay attention to their
product and the impact it can have, but it is also sad that it takes big $
to make them even care. As for Ford, I don't think it is their
responsibility to *try* to make a high rideing truck stable enough to handle
like a sports car. They are just trying to build what they think will sell.
Oh, and one more thing---All you SUV owners out there. If you bought that
thing because you think it's "safe", think again. But, down deep I don't
think you bought it because it's "safe", I think you bought it because you
think it's "cool". ~let the flames begin~ :)
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yeah, we've got an old 81 Bronco, from back when Ford knew how to build 'em
Only use it 3-4 times every summer for fishing at my folks', it stays at
their place, gassed up and trickle charger on it, in case of a heavy snow in
The entire 'U-Haul ban' is nothing more than a pre-emptive strike by U-Haul
If there's an accident involving an Explorer towing a U-Haul, the lawyeers
are going after everyone...Ford, U-haul, the hitch manufacturer, the guy who
put the hitch on, everyone that ever touched it
It's good business sense, just a shame that the shyster lawyers make the
other 5% of the legal profession look bad............
If one were to compare the safety of say the Ford Probe (Fast, Handles
well) and the Ford Explorer (slower and handles less well) my vote for
safety would go with the explorer.
IMHO It is much more likely you will be involved in vehicle to vehicle
collision than be put in a situation where you inadvertently put the
vehicle sideways and risk a rollover.
Having a big heavy vehicle is a huge factor when considering vehicle safety.
So if people buy the vehicle because they think it's safe, they are
probably making a decent choice. Could they do better, sure. Could they
do worse, absolutely.
The safety argument is a myth. Yea, people want front air bags, side air bags.
Stuff like anti-lock brakes. The thing is, if safety is so important why do I
see women in the passenger seat unbelted and a child on the lap? Look at the
increase of instances of aggressive driving. Safety is not really a concern for
the average driver, it's what car is hot at the moment, which vehicle will make
the largest statement to support my ego.
Interesting... I'd never considered the Ex as "big" or "heavy" and I realize
that these would be subjective terms. The Excursion... now we're talking big
Even in it's present, somewhat bloated form (compared to the early ones) the
Ex is still a small vehicle.
As far a bulk helping in a wreck, no matter what our choice of rides is,
there will always be something more formidable heading towards us. The goal
shouldn't be to make cars safer, it should focus on making drivers safer.
Box score.... two MVAs per day on our local highway for the last two
weeks..... we're getting tired of scraping folks up of the road.
I've seen several programs on auto safety (or the lack thereof) from
Britain, and the gist of the thing is that they (we) have to put our
efforts into safer cars, roads and laws, because making the drivers
safer just isn't practical.
Attempting to actually do this would remove many drivers from the
roads, which is political suicide.
The public (of which we are a small part) is willing to accept the
carnage, as long as "something is being done." They will pay the price
in money for the extra safety items, and in continued crashes and
casualties, as long as they can continue to drive.
It is well understood that the problem is the drivers, but very few
individual drivers are willing to admit that *they* are included in
the count of drivers who need to improve.
I can speak from experience (and I'm sure most here can, too) about
people I know who have multiple driving offence convictions (including
DUI), have astronomical insurance costs, and even license
revocations/suspensions, who insist that they are not at fault. It's
"the other drivers."
It's always "the other guy."
Well I suppose it's what you're used to. I grew up in England. And
believe me an Explorer is BIG to me (compared to a Taurus it's BIG).
True, and excursion is Enormous.
A Probe is a 'normal' sized vehicle to most Brits, with the requisite
performance and handling they need on their narrow twisty roads.
Stricter standards in giving out licenses would be a start in that
direction. I was amazed at how EASY it is to pass the US driving test.
You basically drive around the block a few times, if that. No Parallel
parking, emergency stops, three point turns etc. etc. The US license in
comparison to the UK license is a license to kill.
Now HERE is where I agree with you 100%.
When was the last time you saw someone using turn signals with any kind of
consistency or planning, if they're used at all? And lane discipline is
totally lost on most people. When the road veers left, most people are
straddling the left lane marker, and when it veers right, they're straddling
the right lane marker. And it's comical to watch most people exit from an
expressway on a looping exit---not only are they nowhere NEAR the center of
the lane, they're practically clipping off the standing lane markers on the
inside of the curve. They have no CONCEPT of the fact that the rear wheels
do not steer, or where the center of the lane is.
Finally, I always seem to have some 19-year-old, mouth-breathing girl,
stressfully leaning forward in her seat inside the Saturn that her daddy
just bought her (without realizing what a POS Saturns are), GLUED to my rear
bumper, no matter what the speed limit. Someone didn't bother to teach this
bubble-headed cell-phone jockey about stopping distances, either.
Driving lessons in the US are a complete JOKE. I'm really surprised the
insurance companies haven't gotten involved to at least TRY to teach some
kind of driving skills in this country.
<hey butt-head, you snipped my signature along with the fact that
I'm a libertarian>
Didn't know I was going to have to spoon feed it to you. :/
Figured anyone worth talking to, would understand the whole
arguement by knowing I'm a dumb-ass libertarian. :/
Are you so stupid to figure than me and mine haven't been in traffic
accidents caused by others? My girlfriend was nearly killed (they
saved her in the only trauma center we have around here her trauma
name was "year 104".
The girls having fun fighting over which CD to play next all had
drivers licenses when they didn't notice the curve in their Dodge
Ram 4X4. Just one of many examples, what more?
I know who you guys are you figure if we had more gov't we'd be
safer. Demoblican or republicrats.
If you guys were in charge of everything you guys would make
everything better for all of us right?
You guys may not know it... but that's been tried before and didn't
work out so good. :)
Besides theres no such thing as security and safety is over rated!
Alvin in AZ (even a dumb-ass libertarian knowed that! ;)
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