Well the van appears to have been driven about 19.999 miles a year for 9
Does the owner have detailed service records for the vehicle?
Has it ever been in a bad wreck ?
Hows the body, frame & undercarriage holding up?
How long do you intend to keep the van?
How many miles do you figure on putting on it every year?
Can your mechanic look at the vehicle?
These are the questions you need to answer.
I don't have much knowledge of Vans, I assume it has the 4.3 V6. Perhaps
other's here know about the engine and can advise you.
1991 Pontiac Bonneville LE
3800 V6 ( C ), Black/Slate Grey
_~_~_~_~278, 925 miles_~_~_
it is a 4.3L V6...same as the Astro van...real wheel drive...no
records but it is at a dealer who i trust...this is a small
town...CARFAX says it is OK...no wrecks...exterior/interior look
good...i would keep the van for a few years until i can afford a newer
one...i plan on a small number of miles per year less than 8000...==RC
firstname.lastname@example.org (Harry Face) wrote in message
Go to www.kbb.com and check the price. Also take it to an independant
mechanic. As far as trusting the dealer, what do you trust him for?
I mean the dealer may get a car in trade, he thinks the car looks good,
so it is put on his lot. The dealer, unless he has done all the maintenance
on the car, really has no idea about the history of the car. All he
can really do is look at a car and decide whether it will make him
a decent profit, and whether it fits whatever image he is trying to
What you need to do is to check the car out. A car with higher miles
than average may mean it is driven in town alot, and is worn out, or
it may mean that it has been used on the highway alot, is well maintained
and has a lot of life left in it. Get a mechanic to check it out.
If you decide to buy the car, make sure you go to Kelley's or Edmunds
and pay no more than the private party cost for the car.
Damn it . . . Don't you dare ask God to help me.
I had an 87 Astro that lived for over 300,000 hard miles. We bought it
new, and used it for ever type of hauling job we could. It was a conversion
van with high back captians chairs that were easy to remove, and a easy to
remove rear bench/cot seat. The rear seat after 1993 was removed on a
We took it on many long trips, including one before I took her to the
salvage yard I worked at and parted her out.
In those 300,000 We had to do the heads at 50,000 miles. Due to an error
of idiots at a quick lube (which is why I change my own oil). I took the
heads to a local machaine shop and paid a good bit to make them flow. Other
then that at 85,000 miles a feul injector went bad. At 120,000 both idler
arms needed replaced. The idler arms became a one every 2 year issue.
At 175,000 The radiator went out. At just over 200K it was rear ended
some what on the bad side. I redid it at a body shop I worked for. A year
later, the rear end went out. Which I beleave had to do with the stress of
the accident. Astro vans were never ment to stop suburbans going 35 MPH.
Around 250,000 I had to replace the front engine bracket for all the
surpentine accessiors. 86 to 88 or so on that bracket, it was known for
breaking near the power steering pump.
Then at 300,000 The right head went bad. The van by then (January of
2000), was in rough shape. The transmission was getting near the end of
it's service life, as was the used rear end I put in it. The body had
started to rust in a few place, and the motor could have used a compleate
Not bad for a Van that was used in ways that define rough service. It paid
for it's self a good 10 times over. I haven't found many a Truck or Van as
reliable as that one was.
And before I get asked. I did normial service on it, on a regular basis.
in those 300,000 miles I used 2 water pumps, a fuel pump, 3 Exhaust systems,
60 Spark plugs, 3 distributor caps & rotors, 4 sets of plug wires, 12 sets
of brake disks, 8 sets of shoes, 3 sets of brake rotors, 2 sets of brake
drums, a cam when we did the heads, 3 blower motors, 6 pairs of idler arms,
5 pairs of shocks, and more tires then I will ever talk about.
A 95 Safari with 178,000 wouldn't scare me at all.
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