This isn't just Ford though... this is everybody. NOBODY tests anything
anymore. When it proves to be deficient, they simply patch it... As a
computer user, you shouldn't be bitching about Ford. Another big corporation
should be miles higher on your list...
That definitely explains all the SUV recalls in the last few years, where
mismatched sets of tyres mashed differentials, the Ford Explorer fiasco,
Jeep CJs tipping over in tight corners, GM rear brakes failing after
50,000kms, the Cadillac Northstar emissions fiasco, the Optispark
distributer sucking in moisture issue that only got corrected in '95, the
BMW Nikasil block issue, plastic manifolds that crack in 100000 miles, the
GM Dexcool 3.4L V6 issue, and all the other ones we don't know about.
Let's rephrase: Bare minimum testing rather than no testing. At the rate
that they push these things to market, is it any surprise? Please tell me
that it is.
SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU DUMB BIGOTED IGNORANT HIPOCRITICAL TROLL! Go
back under your bridge and stay there!
I thought I had you on my killfile list. Now I'll have to try again.
One of these days Philip will be buried in his defunct TOY o DUH and
were all gonna gloat.
No, its true, his statement wasnt. I've been in this group since 1996,
way before even you Mike, in fact, I was invited by the founder "Rousch"
and it was only 8 post a day! Now this guys comes in, pops off, we'll
probably see him in here for a week doing damage control (putting out
the fires) for Ford, then he'll be gone.
SENATOR ZELL MILLER DEMOCRAT OF GEORGIA, the nation's most prominent
conservative Democrat, said today he will endorse President Bush for
I can tell you this much. After practically pushing my mom's Ranger to
the lot for a trade in, 2 vehicles with cracked head gaskets, major
suspension problems on a 40K Expedition, and my dad's 4.0 litre V6
Ranger that has about as much pep as a turtle. I've seen all the Ford
products I can take. Maybe you Ford owners can play with the
"non-boring" little gadgets inside the car while waiting on a tow
truck. As for me, I'm sold on Toyota quality.
Actually, Toyota engines are extremely reliable. The fact that they use a
few less layers of paint, however, is reason to worry - the cars will rot to
pieces very quickly, unless waxing, polishing, and rust protection are done
with fanatic repetition. They are solid and reliable cars, however, if
looked after. Not very stylish, mind you, but but reliable.
If a US company were to buy Toyota, I think that the quality of NA cars
would improve a great deal - case in point being Jaguar, whose engineering
make the LS and new Thunderbird into pretty kickass luxury cars, or the
Asuna-designed Sunfire/Cavalier. Toyota would probably benefit too.
Those days are long gone for ANY auto manufacturer. It's infinitely cheaper
to make unit body cars with wimply little sewing machine engines that need
to be spinning 5000rpm to move the car at 80km/h. Good handling is a
side-effect, simply because the mass isn't there to allow the car to wallow.
Now, if only they'd get the idea with SUVs - bad-handling 4x4 station wagons
with no luggage space that owners would be mortified to drive on a dirt
road, much less off-road. I always love winter because it really
demonstrates to SUV people that their tanks don't handle any better than
most cars on a slippery surface, and that 4x4 doesn't apply to braking. Tee
I was being facetious. ;) But still, you get the idea. There's something not
quite refined about a poor little four getting thrashed to drive highway
normal speeds. I have no idea about the shifting of my new LT1 RoadMaster
yet, but I'd assume that it's doing ~1500rpm at 50mph, if its gearing is
anything like my old LSC.
Of course. ;-) But there is NOTHING unrefined about high RPM, unless
the context is a luxury car. Case in point, HONDA pioneered mass
production of short stroke high RPM fours in motorcycles and
automobiles. "Thrashed" is a low RPM, long stroke 6 cylinder
viewpoint. ;-) I retired from driving OTR trucks. 60 mph was
typically 1500 rpm and sometimes less. On the other end of the scale
is my aforementioned 400cc four cylinder Honda. 60 mph in top gear
is 6,500 rpm. Redline at 13,500. Stroke / piston speed is
~~Philip "Never let school interfere
with your education - Mark Twain"
I'm definitely guilty of the low rpm luxury viewpoint... my LSC (HO 302) was
still geared so that it wasn't really working unless I felt like doing
140mph. It redlined at 6,500- had a 3" stroke, and a 4" bore. I wish that I
could have put that engine into something else... I could nearly get the
front wheels off the ground. Handled like a Benz too. :) The Buick kills it
for power and torque, but isn't so great around bends, but hey... it makes
up for it with the soft pillowy ride. No, it doesn't induce nausea like a
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